Jadeveon Clowney (DE Carolina Panthers)

[stowfan]

But, he's the 2nd best freshmen playing on that D-line

Fill us in, I've never heard this story.

 

[CentralMOBuck]

 

[powerlifter]

This guy kills people

 

[y0yoyoin]

This guy kills people

Indeed

 

[osugrad21]

AJC

Commentary: It's wise to not make USC's Clowney angry

Michigan quarterback Devin Gardner (12) loses his helmet as he is hit by South Carolina defensive ends Devin Taylor and Jadeveon Clowney (7).
Chris O'Meara/AP

By Todd Shanesy
[email protected]


TAMPA, Fla. ? If you're playing against him, don't make him angry.

You wouldn't like him when he's angry.
South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney, super hero of the college football world, was mild-mannered for most of the Outback Bowl game Tuesday afternoon against Michigan in Raymond James Stadium.
Early in the second half, Clowney even had to leave the field after he took a helmet to his bloomin' onions.
But in the fourth quarter, South Carolina trailing, something really made his blood boil. Michigan tried a fake punt and although replays, as well as still photographs, showed the Wolverines were short of a first down, they were given the first down anyway.
Clowney's eyes rolled back in his head.
He growled.
His muscles popped.
Well, probably.
Cont...

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

One of the very few top-notch recruits who has actually lived up to his 'Landak'-like hype he had coming out of high school...

 

[Palpie]

If only that had been shoestring.

 

[MONTbigBuck]

AJC

Just a few observations on the hit and game aftermath. Interesting to see in the above article that V. Smith was the player that speared Clowney in the nuts while in pass protection earlier in the game, and was stupid enough to stand there laughing about it afterward. It is not often that a player(Clowney) "gets-even" in such a dramatic but also legal way.

I also saw some commentary over at Mgoblog last night that felt that posession should have stayed with UM following the big hit due to the play being dead immediately following his helmet flying off. I haven't looked at the rule. But after UM getting one of the most "generous" spots I have ever seen on the fake punt, and still needing a Helen Keller ruling when the chains were brought out to keep posession, I think there may have been a riot if the refs had taken the fumble away from SC. On a side note D gardner gained 4-5 yards extra after loosing his helmet a bit earlier, and the ball wasn't moved back. That extra yardage allowed UM to attempt and make a 53 yard fg. I didn't here anyone over at Mgoblog say that they should have moved the ball back 4-5 yards, or taken the points off the board. Ironic that both hits and helmet situations evened out.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

Just a few observations on the hit and game aftermath. Interesting to see in the above article that V. Smith was the player that speared Clowney in the nuts while in pass protection earlier in the game, and was stupid enough to stand there laughing about it afterward. It is not often that a player(Clowney) "gets-even" in such a dramatic but also legal way.

I also saw some commentary over at Mgoblog last night that felt that posession should have stayed with UM following the big hit due to the play being dead immediately following his helmut flying off. I haven't looked at the rule. But after UM getting one of the most "generous" spots I have ever seen on the fake punt, and still needing a Helen Keller ruling when the chains were brought out to keep posession, I think there may have been a riot if the refs had taken the fumble away from SC. On a side note D gardner gained 4-5 yards extra after loosing his helmut a bit earlier, and the ball wasn't moved back. That extra yardage allowed UM to attempt and make a 53 yard fg. I didn't here anyone over at Mgoblog say that they should have moved the ball back 4-5 yards, or taken the points off the board. Ironic that both hits and helmut situations evened out.

I assume you are spelling "helmet" wrong for irony...

 

[tundra1]

Just a few observations on the hit and game aftermath. Interesting to see in the above article that V. Smith was the player that speared Clowney in the nuts while in pass protection earlier in the game, and was stupid enough to stand there laughing about it afterward. It is not often that a player(Clowney) "gets-even" in such a dramatic but also legal way.

I also saw some commentary over at Mgoblog last night that felt that posession should have stayed with UM following the big hit due to the play being dead immediately following his helmut flying off. I haven't looked at the rule. But after UM getting one of the most "generous" spots I have ever seen on the fake punt, and still needing a Helen Keller ruling when the chains were brought out to keep posession, I think there may have been a riot if the refs had taken the fumble away from SC. On a side note D gardner gained 4-5 yards extra after loosing his helmut a bit earlier, and the ball wasn't moved back. That extra yardage allowed UM to attempt and make a 53 yard fg. I didn't here anyone over at Mgoblog say that they should have moved the ball back 4-5 yards, or taken the points off the board. Ironic that both hits and helmut situations evened out.

If you do look at the rule, what I believe it says is that if the ball carrier loses his helmet, the play is dead. If a player who is not the ball carrier loses his helmet, that player must stop participating in the play.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect...ERES&CACHEID=ae50a0004b568515984ebd98b2d2e5a1

This brings up 2 points:

1. I don't think V. Smith ever had full possession of the football on that play, therefore he was not the ball carrier and the play should not have been blown dead.

2. If you look really carefully, after he's lying flat on his back, V. Smith reaches for the ball with his right hand and also partially rolls over (his left shoulder comes off the ground). He then grabs at Clowney's leg as Clowney tries to advance the recovered fumble. If you constitute this as "continued participation in the play," then Michigan should have been penalized 15 yards.

 

[Dryden]

I also saw some commentary over at Mgoblog last night that felt that posession should have stayed with UM following the big hit due to the play being dead immediately following his helmut flying off.

4-1-3-q:

Ball Declared Dead
ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle
or declare it dead:
...
q. When a ball carrier's helmet comes completely off.

There isn't exactly any latitude for interpretation of 'continuation' here. The play is over when the ball is declared dead, and the ball is supposed to be dead when the ball carrier's helmet comes off.

The question is whether the officials determined the ball carrier was already losing possession before being hit, or ever had possession to begin with. Looks to me like Clowney crushes Smith and Gardner just drops the ball on the turf without ever getting it into the pocket.

 

[MONTbigBuck]

4-1-3-q:



There isn't exactly any latitude for interpretation of 'continuation' here. The play is over when the ball is declared dead, and the ball is supposed to be dead when the ball carrier's helmet comes off.

The question is whether the officials determined the ball carrier was already losing possession before being hit, or ever had possession to begin with. Looks to me like Clowney crushes Smith and Gardner just drops the ball on the turf without ever getting it into the pocket.

Valid points both, Dryden and Tundra. I originally wondered myself if Smith ever secured the handoff. It was obvious to me that like the fake punt spot, the refs simply blew the call on the Gardner scramble.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I could watch that all day...

 

[colobuck79]

I could watch that all day...

I have watched it all day.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

Detroit Free Press .. interviewing Hoke

On Clowney: Asked if anyone can block South Carolina star defensive end Jadeveon Clowney one-on-one, Hoke explained what most see as the U-M?s biggest challenge.

'Anybody can be blocked one-on-one,' Hoke said.

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