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It's going to be USC, whats everyones thoughts?

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cincibuck;671662; said:
OK I earned that. I didn't mean to suggest that I want to see a rematch. It's over for this year. I just don't like the idea that USC is automatically number two. I want to see the Big 10 go 1,2,3 at the end of the polls/bowls. And I wanted to pint out the absurdity of loosing a game two weeks later than another team automatically translates into a drop in the polls. I still believe, based on what I witnessed during the season, that Michigan is the #2 team in the US.
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I was impressed w/ tsun in columbus this year but I wasn't real impressed with anything they did up to that point. Of course they played :osu: tough, they always do.

They beat a ND team in the second week. Not real impressive now, but the Texas win now seems a little weak too. However, :osu: has had the #1 target on their backs all year and have been impressive.

There is no doubt this year will go down as:

tsun whining about not getting another shot.<<most likely to happen

tsun getting a rematch and losing and everyone in CFB saying "I told you so" or "didn't :osu: do that once already?"

or

tsun winning a rematch and :osu: saying split NC

or
the USC v :osu: game being another classic #1 vs #2 battle.



tsun had their shot and didn't win.

they should build a bridge....



and get over it.:tibor:



btw cinci I wasn't calling you out w/ the BITCH!!!

I'm just sayin...:)
 
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It won't break my heart if UCLA upsets USC. But going forward with the expected, who has USC beat this year? Didn't Florida knock off six ranked teams (at the time they played respective teams)?

USC IS the Pac conference. That's the problem...they have no real competition out there. I'd much rather see OSU square off against the SEC. It's arguably the widest, deepest conference today.

And you scUM fans...stop whining for a rematch that would prove NOTHING. Had you won on the 18th, I'd be saying to Lloyd and Henne: "Go forth and do the Big 10 Conference Proud!" Man up for once.
 
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JoJaBuckeye;672337; said:
... But going forward with the expected, who has USC beat this year? Didn't Florida knock off six ranked teams (at the time they played respective teams)?

USC IS the Pac conference. That's the problem...they have no real competition out there. I'd much rather see OSU square off against the SEC. It's arguably the widest, deepest conference today.

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BayBuck;672342; said:
Arkansas (10-2), Nebraska (9-3), ND (10-2).
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If Arkansas and Nebraska and GT win on Saturday, USC will have beaten the Big 12 and SEC champions and a team that beat the ACC champion.

Even beating 2 teams that made it to CCGs is impressive.

As for Florida and the SEC, that argument presupposes that the SEC is as tough as everyone suggests. I'm not entirely convinced, yet. I'm willing to admit that they might be the best, but they have yet to prove it out-of-conference. Three of their Four major bowls will be played in SEC states, and they may get paired with Notre "8-game-bowl-losing-streak" Dame in one of them. They need to do better than just win those three games to impress me.
 
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scarletngrey11;670574; said:
Chad Henne > John David Booty

Mario Manningham = Dwayne Jarrett (maybe a slight edge to Jarrett?)


Brady Quinn had 76 rushing yards last night...Imagine how many yards on the ground Smith could have....Imagine how many yards on the ground Ginn could have if he took a few snaps at QB...
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I wouldn't say that Chad Henne is really that much better than Booty. If anything, I would probably say that the two of them are almost equal. But the real mistake is judging Manningham to be equal to Jarrett. Jarrett is by far better than Manningham, and is probably the best receiver in the country aside from maybe Calvin Johnson.

Brady Quinn had the majority of his rushing yards on a single 60 yard run. True, he found a wide open gap to run through, but I wouldn't say that USC's defense was allowing him to run all over them all night. I'm not saying that Troy won't be able to successfully run on USC, but saying that Brady Quinn did is a slightly misleading.
 
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BayBuck:

My intent was to contrast teams ranked at the time they were beaten. Both OSU and scUM beat 3 teams that were ranked when beaten.

DaddyBigBuck,

SEC: Point made.

Big 12? Not so much. Ditto the ACC. But you do make a good argument that USC has proven itself outside its conference.

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Next: Am I the only one tremendously annoyed that despite BQ's pathetic performance against USC, he was still being hyped as a Heisman contender? Well, I guess one cannot rule out the possibility that a meteor could fall from space and kill Troy b/t now and the award ceremony. But still...
 
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JoJaBuckeye;672337; said:
It won't break my heart if UCLA upsets USC. But going forward with the expected, who has USC beat this year? Didn't Florida knock off six ranked teams (at the time they played respective teams)?

USC IS the Pac conference. That's the problem...they have no real competition out there. I'd much rather see OSU square off against the SEC. It's arguably the widest, deepest conference today.
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This would be an argument, if a number of computers polls didn't actually rank the Pac-10 the strongest conference.

Since 2002, SC has pounded Auburn (twice), Arkansas (twice), Colorado, Notre Dame (five times), Iowa, Michigan, Virginia Tech, and Oklahoma. That's two Big-10 co-champs in two different years, an ACC champ, a Big-12 champ, a Big-12 runner up, one of this years' SEC title game participants, and 2004's SEC whiners who complained they got shafted by not getting their shot, despite the fact that they had their shot at SC each of the prior two years and was embarrassed both times!

In that same time USC has lost a grand total of two out of conference games: to 11-2 2003 Kansas State by 7 and to 13-0 2005 Texas by 3.

Additionally, SC actually plays road games: at Auburn, at Arkansas, at South Bend.

Name me an SEC team that travels west as frequently as SC travels east ... Maybe the exchange trip by Auburn to SC (got smoked), Arkansas to SC (got smoked) or Tennessee to South Bend (got smoked)?

Georgia has played a grand total of ONE non-conference game outside of the state of Georgia in at least the last nine years (at Clemson once waaaay long ago), after all, their major rival is a non-conference non-factor in Atlanta (GT). Florida hasn't played a non-conference game outside of the state of Florida in at least a decade! In the BCS-era, UF has played 30 out of conference opponents in the regular season: 24 in Gainesville, 5 in Tallahassee, and 1 in Miami! Incidentally, in that same time, UF is 3-6 against Florida State, 0-4 against the Canes, and 3-5 in bowl games.

Call me when an SEC team actually goes on the road outside of the deep south and wins a big regular season game. When was the last time that happened? Tennessee's trip to Pasedena in '97 when they beat UCLA?

The SEC is not only overrated (as usual), but once again SEC fans are whining about being screwed by the BCS, despite the fact that this silly system they despise gift wrapped a national title to a weak Tennessee team in 1998, and further placed LSU in a national title game versus a weak opponent in 2003 despite USC being ranked #1 in both polls at the time.

Whatever!

/end SEC is teh sux0rs rant
 
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BayBuck;672373; said:
I don't see how previous rankings are relevant at this point in the season.
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How are they relevant now? well tsun beat wisconsin in week 4 and wisconsin wasn't even ranked in the top 25, so now their win is a bigger deal than us beating Iowa?....who was ranked #13 in week 5. at that time the Iowa game was a big deal now...not so much.

:osu: never had the chance to play wisconsin now #6 and btw Iowa just fell off the face of the earth.:lol:

Is that not relevant?


Texas was #2 and now? #17

does that make tsun's wisconsin win more impressive now than :osu: v texas win? just because of the rankings now? or then?

either way...:smash:


there needs to be a playoff.
 
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