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Is Scheduling a Big Out of Conference Game Worth It?

Taosman

Your Cousin In New Mexxico
We have scheduled a lot of big time games in the future.
Is the excitement and exposure going to justify the chances of a early set back to national title hopes worth it?
Few other schools are willing to take that chance.
 
We have scheduled a lot of big time games in the future.
Is the excitement and exposure going to justify the chances of a early set back to national title hopes worth it?
Few other schools are willing to take that chance.

Double edged sword... the pay off is big if there are 3 undefeated teams.
 
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Absolutely worth it. National exposure being one huge advantage. Would you prefer if OSU is on TV locally beating up YSU or would you prefer OSU v. Texas being hyped NATIONALLY for weeks before they even take the field?

If you're Chris Wells would you rather want the national media talking about you and how you'll help possibly beat a Top 10 opponant, or do you want the locals talking about how OSU should win if the wheels don't fall off?

While OSU won't win every "Big Time" game on is OOC schedule and may take itself out of the title hunt early (which I doubt - early losses don't hurt as much, and if OSU had beaten PSU we'd be hoping Tejas or USC falls this weekend cause WE'D be in) the program benefits outweigh the costs.
 
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I think it's good as long as everyone doesn't start to think like Oregon fans. SoS should be taken into account.

You make a good point. I've heard way too many "analysts" make the argument that Oregon deserves a BCS bowl over us simply b/c they only have one loss, while we have two. I think it's ridiculous, b/c I think by losing in a very close game to UT, we did much more for our reputation than we could have by destroying another MAC team. However, the contrary opinion, however ridiculous it may be, is out there.
 
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We have scheduled a lot of big time games in the future.
Is the excitement and exposure going to justify the chances of a early set back to national title hopes worth it?
Few other schools are willing to take that chance.
We'll find out December 4th. If we make it to a bowl game on SoS, then hell yeah it was worth it BABY!!! :biggrin:

If we don't make it, then I'd say it's a toss up that can only be answered after the fact. (This year would be a good example of it not being worth it in that case)

Since you never no what's going to happen when these games are scheduled anyways, I'd say they're worth it. Besides, would you really want to go to the national championships if you couldn't sack up and play any of the top teams in the country along the way? (note this argument does not apply to Oregon fans)

EDIT: Also note that this argument completely doesn't apply to Notre Dame. They should schedule 9 patsies, 1 really good team, and the rest mid-majors.
Guaranteed formula for BCS appearances and $13.5 million.
 
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Taking another angle on the issue...

Would any of you that went to the Texas game (as I did), trade your experience in that loss for a win against "Northeast Central Alaska Poly Tech A&M State - Anchorage"? I don't think so.

Out of conference games don't effect your ability to win a Big Ten championship. If you can't win a big one, you don't deserve a national championship to begin with. I don't understand why people are so scared of competition on a high level.

Winners aren't afraid to play winners.
 
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Yes. Both JT and Coop (who is partly responsible for many of these OOC games) had it right, but for different reasons.

As JT says, you have to play these types of games in order to get better.

The plus side to playing a Texas, USC, Va Tech, or Miami Fla is that, barring a Tennessee-esque collapse, you know exactly what the opponent will bring four or five years into the future, the coaching staff can sell the upcoming four or five seasons worth of nationally televised games to the recruits, and taking a loss won't hurt unless there are multiple unbeatens.

As Coop used to say, there is nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing the bottom feeders, especially in-state. You don't want to be known as the coach responsible for Ohio State's first loss to Akron since 1894.

Scheduling Div-1AA teams is an obvious SoS/Comp Poll killer, and scheduling mid-majors has become russian roulette. When schedules are made out five years in advance, a team like Wisconsin isn't worried about Cincinnati, Kansas State isn't worried about Marshall, Missouri doesn't think twice about visiting Troy. Heck, six or seven years ago, not one coach or AD in the country would have cringed about the thought of scheduling Boise St., Fresno St., and UTEP on consecutive weeks in the same season.

In college football, there is such a thing about losing pretty and losing ugly. As we've seen since the formation of the BCS, the difference between two pretty loses versus one ugly one costs a programs' conference $13.5M. Losing early in the season to a good opponent will not hurt you, and that's a proven fact. A pretty loss versus the ugly upset is the difference between falling from 5 to 10 in the Top-25 versus falling from 5 to unranked.

The only way it can hurt is if you don't win any of the big OOC games, then it becomes a Cooper-like "2-10-1" problem.
 
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I think that the big OOC games are dangerous, that's well - a given. But risk brings reward in more than one way. I also believe these marquee OOC tilts are very, very worthwhile. Even though the Buckeyes lost narrowly to Texas I think that game did a world of good to get the team completely focused on the level of attainment required for a wonderful season. If Texas fans were asked I think they would say the same thing about that battle in the 'Shoe - win or lose.
 
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Another way of looking at it is -- ask Texas if it's worth it. Without us on their schedule and with the state of the Big XII...I don't think someone would have passed an undefeated Texas to get into the Rose, but we've witnessed a lot of strange things in the BCS era...

EDIT: I type too slow...
 
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:osu:

It pays off in recruiting as well. The big time blue chippers want to play the best. When you can show that you are winning big time and doing so against the cream of the crop it only helps the chances of a kid getting a shot at the NFL.

JT can show a young man that he has the opportunity to obtain a quality degree, play for one of the best teams in the country and that the buckeyes will play anyone anywhere. You cant buy that kind of PR. It something that very, very few programs can say. It will pay HUGE dividends in recruiting.
 
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