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WTF has happened to Carmona's control this year? He's like a ticking timebomb out there every start. :(
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tsteele316
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his mechanics have been out of whack all year long. the injury only made it worse.
if you watched his last start against texas, he lost control really badly. carl willis was shown in the dugout between innings coaching him on his hand placement and arm angle, and carmona went back out there and mowed down everyone.
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I've figured the injury has something to do with it. At least it sounds fixable and Willis is one of the best in the buisness.tsteele316;1247064; said:
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Poking holes in Sox: Relaxed Tribe batters Chicago again as Martinez ends home-run drought
by Paul Hoynes Tuesday September 02, 2008, 11:15 PM
Chuck Crow/The Plain DealerAsdrubal Cabrera slides safely across home plate to score the Indians' fourth run of the game Tuesday night against the White Sox at Progressive Field. Franklin Gutierrez doubled in Cabrera as catcher A.J. Pierzynski (far right) leaps for in vain for a high throw and home plate umpire Larry Vanover keeps a close eye on the fourth-inning play.
It's not the same situation. There's still too much time left in the season and pressure isn't close to cresting. Still, the first two games of this series feel a bit like the last weekend of the 2005 season when White Sox came to Progressive Field with the AL Central already won to face an Indians team whose playoff hopes were down to a vapor trail. Chicago swept that series, tainting a 93-win season by the Tribe, on the way to a World Series title.
Tuesday night the Indians beat the White Sox, 9-3, for the second straight game in this three-game series. It didn't hurt Chicago that much. They stayed in a first-place tie with the Twins, who lost to Toronto, but manager Ozzie Guillen wasn't happy with the way his team looks.
They've lost five of their last six games and are 3-5 on this 10-game trip.
This time around Chicago looked like the team that's played itself into a corner, while the no-worry Indians, out of contention since July, played free and easy. Tuesday's victory was their 18th in the last 24 games and cut their deficit in the AL Central to 9 1/2 games. It's the first time it's been less than double digits since June 29.
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Lee's season among Tribe's and MLB's best
by Mike Peticca Tuesday September 02, 2008, 10:04 PM
Chuck Crow/The Plain DealerIt's no exaggeration to state that Cliff Lee has styled one of the best seasons in modern big-league pitching history.
Lee's season in review
Gaylord Perry pleased
Paul Hoynes' 4 thoughts
Unless viewed from an historical perspective, it is difficult to appreciate how special Cliff Lee's season has been. Lee, 20-2 with a 2.32 earned run average, leads the major leagues in wins, and his ERA is first among all starters.
He also leads baseball in win-loss percentage (.909). Since baseball began compiling official records in 1871, no pitcher with at least 20 decisions has finished a season with that high a winning percentage. Greg Maddux went 19-2 (.905) for the Braves in 1995. Through Monday, the Indians were 46-68 (.404), not counting Lee's 20-2.
Following is a look at, arguably, the 15 greatest seasons for Indians starters in the past 50 years. We go back to when the Big Four era of Bob Feller, Bob Lemon, Early Wynn and Mike Garcia had just concluded, and when Herb Score was making a bold, but futile, effort to regain his brilliance after eye and arm injuries.
Then, we look at some of the best seasons for any starting pitcher in the last 50 years. Keep in mind that statistics vary from era to era based on the size of ballparks and the strike zone, and other circumstances.
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Indians Insider: Laffey sidelined with sore elbow
by Paul Hoynes Tuesday September 02, 2008, 10:39 PM
Chuck Crow/The Plain DealerAaron Laffey has developed a sore left elbow and won't pitch again this season.
There will be no six-man rotation in September. Aaron Laffey, the prospective sixth starter, has been shut down because of an inflamed left elbow. Laffey had an MRI in Cleveland on Monday, but will not need surgery. Laffey tried to pitch with the sore elbow for the last two or three starts at Class AAA Buffalo with poor results.
Jake Westbrook, who already had Tommy John surgery on his right elbow in June, will undergo arthroscopic surgery on his right hip Thursday in Nashville, Tenn. Dr. Thomas Byrd will perform the surgery. Lonnie Soloff, the Indians' head athletic trainer, said the hip surgery will not slow Westbrook's return from right elbow reconstruction.
In other medical news, Travis Hafner (right shoulder), who joined the Indians on Tuesday from Buffalo, will try to play consecutive games Friday and Saturday in the minors.
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20-20 vision: Gaylord Perry glad to have Lee join Tribe's 20-win club
by Jodie Valade Tuesday September 02, 2008, 7:53 PM
Robert E. Dorksen/Plain Dealer fileDuring his 24-win season in 1972, Gaylord Perry enjoys umpire Bill Kunkel's reaction after another search at the mound looking for the source of Perry's swerving pitches.
Truth is, Gaylord Perry is quite relieved. The Hall of Fame pitcher doesn't mind one bit that Indians left-hander Cliff Lee has won 20 games and stolen the glory that the 69-year-old once held in Cleveland lore. "I've been answering questions about 20 wins for 34 years," Perry drawled in his Southern twang last week, "so I'm glad it's somebody else's turn."
Perry was the last pitcher to win 20 games for the Indians, a feat he accomplished in 1974 when he was 21-13 with a 2.51 ERA.
Until last season, when CC Sabathia powered to the Cy Young Award, Perry also was the last Tribe player to win MLB's highest pitching honor.
But the right-hander, who still deflects spitball accusations, is content to lose the distinction of being "the last Indians pitcher" to perform both feats. It has been too long for him to hold those honors, he said.
"When I go over all the pitchers that have been there since I've been there, and they didn't win 20, I was kind of shocked," Perry said. "They get to 19 and quit. It's good for the game. It's good for the Indians."
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Lee's season among Tribe's and MLB's best
by Mike Peticca Tuesday September 02, 2008, 10:04 PM
Lee's season in review
Gaylord Perry pleased
Paul Hoynes' 4 thoughts
Unless viewed from an historical perspective, it is difficult to appreciate how special Cliff Lee's season has been. Lee, 20-2 with a 2.32 earned run average, leads the major leagues in wins, and his ERA is first among all starters.
He also leads baseball in win-loss percentage (.909). Since baseball began compiling official records in 1871, no pitcher with at least 20 decisions has finished a season with that high a winning percentage. Greg Maddux went 19-2 (.905) for the Braves in 1995. Through Monday, the Indians were 46-68 (.404), not counting Lee's 20-2.
Following is a look at, arguably, the 15 greatest seasons for Indians starters in the past 50 years. We go back to when the Big Four era of Bob Feller, Bob Lemon, Early Wynn and Mike Garcia had just concluded, and when Herb Score was making a bold, but futile, effort to regain his brilliance after eye and arm injuries.
Then, we look at some of the best seasons for any starting pitcher in the last 50 years. Keep in mind that statistics vary from era to era based on the size of ballparks and the strike zone, and other circumstances.
1. Gaylord Perry, 1972, 24-16, 1.92 ERA:
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