tsteele316;1200232; said:
apparently some people thought the brewers were going to hand over their entire farm system to cleveland for a 3 month rental.
1. no other club was willing to put up a prospect as highly touted as laporta, at a position that cleveland so desperately needs.
2. the brewers obviously don't have the clout to resign sabathia as a FA. that reduces the selling price because it's not as beneficial to them to have that negotiating edge with him during the rest of the season.
3. deals like the colon trade just don't happen anymore. it's a thing of the past.
4. if taylor green is the 4th player in the deal, which seems to be the prevailing wisdom, the deal is actually pretty good.
5. looking at who was actually in the trade, it seems fairly obvious that other moves are probably forthcoming.
Why do you think other moves are forthcoming?
Ironically, You may get better value for Peralta given that he has some tiem left on his deal and is reasonably cheap...
LitlBuck;1200465; said:
NFL, I have been saying this over and over and you have put me down every time I have said it. They do not call these guys prospects for nothing. I think I would have waited a little longer to see what other teams who are trying to make a run would have to offer closer to July 31. I really don't care how good Milwaukee's AA team is until those guys can prove themselves in the major leagues they are still called prospects. Also, Milwaukee just did not get a 3 month rental that also got two #1 draft choices next year. The Indians once had a prospect who was supposedly the best prospect in the minor leagues. His name was Richie Scheinblum. He didn't know out very well. I don't care if they do throw in Green or the OF I still think the Indians pulled the trigger too fast.
Probably another 40 years but at least we didn't fork over all the money that we had in free agency only to come up a little bit short life the motor city
boys.
Eh, everyone was a prospect... some guys make it, some don't.
I for one am kind of happy about LaPorta.... (though predictably annoyed aobut the pitchers, as for the PTBN, it had better be a position player with power.)
And here's why.
He's not Grady Sizemore, Coco Crisp, Franlin Gutierrez, Ben Francisco, Torii Hunter, Jacque Jones, Trevor Crowe, or some other goddammed 5 "tooler."
Yes, I threw some Twins in there.
Why? That's what Shapiro wants his outfield to be.... or wanted.
Problem with Shapiro is that he is the anti-John Hart. He wants starting pitching, speed, and flexible multi-tool players that can play multiple positions...
And, that's fine to some degree, I do like an athletic team... but... shit... we only need so many guys who can hit .260 and hit 20 hrs and steal 20 bases (if Wedge would ever let them.)
But, we need guys who can rake...
I've come (much to my chagrin) to appreciate the many talents of Casey Blake... but... he's not a cornerstone player. Can you win with him at 3rd? Sure, but you need pop, oh I don't know, in your corner outfield spots and at 1st base?
Juice rumors aside.... if we can ssume pronk has been hurt for a while... and... may come back and be a reasonbly good hitter... and Victor, with Sizmore, I think you only need to find one more professional hitter and you might be fine with some younger guys elsewhere...
Luckily, since everyone not in the equation above pretty much sucks, you have a lot of flexibility. (Hey, the multi-tool player thing gives you
something.) (Even if you disagree on Pronk, we're stuck with him.)
I'm not sold on anyone at this point... I mean, I don't have a lot of reason to beleive that Ben Francisco is anything more than the next Jody Gerut. And Ryan Garko is a slightly better version of Ben Broussard.
I do tend to thing that those guys are a bit better, but need protection.
(If Peralta were to be traded, I don't have a problem going into next year with Cabrera at SS and a rent a 2b depeding on Barfield... at least we'll have plus up the middle defense-- and if we're reduced to 2b shopping, lets find a damned leadoff hitter, please)
Bottom line is, we need some mashers, Laporta appears to be one, and I think we'll see him in Cleveland soon, too.
NOt so worried about the Starting pitching, we have arms there.... that Shapiro has actually seen to... at least in quantity.
I'd also like to see the aforementioned Wes Hdges sooner rather than later, too.
But, while I'd say no one player is safe, no need to trash the whole thing right now.
... the Colon trade was announced on June 27, 2002.