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Ehh not sure about that. OK, I could see some comparisons between Powell and Pryor missing angles. And Pryor looks like he's starting to get the hang of it -- he's been solid in coverage and sticking some hits. Fuller is good but... Vonn Bell good? Not sure about that.
Don't see a Doran Grant or Eli Apple at CB just yet either. Sheffield and Arnette are solid, but not the same level. Okudah and Wade are still young like Conley that year. Maybe Okudah can come on like Apple did... he's certainly flashed a few times. For whatever reason Wade can't get a permanent job on the field. The raw talent is comparable, but at a different stage of development.
But it's the LB corps that is night and day. Grant, Powell, Lee ... we're more athletic but less disciplined and sound. Werner and Malik are both trying to be Lee/Shazier ... but abandon their responsibility to chase way too often. I'd hazard that's coaching. A healthy Tuf is probably a bit better than Grant, but there's no Raekwon to step in and push either.
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Three Buckeyes have gone #1 overall:
1979 - Tom Cousineau
1994 - Dan Wilkinson
1997 - Orlando Pace
Schlichter went 4th in the first round in 1982, Kenneth Sims of Texas was #1 overall that year.
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As we’re driving our daughter back to Chicago today after the game yesterday, my wife asks if I still enjoy going to the game as opposed to watching it on TV. It is a lot for us as it’s a huge travel scenario. Probably 8-9 hours of driving today to get everyone home.
I had to stop and think about it as I type this on my phone in the back seat of the car, while taking a break from driving. The stadium experience has its pluses and minuses.
I had to stop and think about it as I type this on my phone in the back seat of the car, while taking a break from driving. The stadium experience has its pluses and minuses.
- Being squeezed in between 2 swelt older couples
- Sitting on hard metal seats
- Sitting for 4 hours through all the TV timeouts and replays
- Just being on campus on game day
- The stadium atmosphere second to none
- OH IO ringing the stadium
- The pageantry of the band entrance into the stadium
- The halftime show
- The rush of the team entrance at the start of the game
- Hang On Sloopy
- Going home with an exciting win
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This. The balls out attack with a very predictable coverage behind it is going to give up some big plays. This years team just has to find a way to cut down on them. Flip side is that style allows them to make plays of their own.
I was actually encouraged by the LB play this week. I think we are really starting to see those guys come on. Zero doubts as to athleticism there (Borland's post Achilles issues aside).
The DL is outstanding. If/when they add Bosa back man oh man. #53, Hamilton, is quietly having a great year.
Corners had a rough one. I just don't think #3 and #8 are on the same level as the guys we have seen come through the pipeline the past few years. No shame in not being a first round pick but it's something the coaches know they are going to have to deal with.
Safety, well... Pryor is showing some positive flashes. I saw a couple of plays that make me question Wint's foot speed. Continues to be the weak link of the defense and I think it's only going to improve as much as Pryor can improve over the next few weeks.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
Right? I sure as shit remember watching Ohio frick’n U creating plenty of frustration for our team a few years ago... and a directional Illinois school?
How soon we forget?
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Not exactly a fair comparison, as ALL of the teams who had those big gains, were actually decent teams who made bowl games. Oregon St and Rutgers have won 1 game each and Tulane has 2, not exactly top flight teams, who were able to have very big plays on our defense. I would dare say, outside of Pierce, none of the teams even had the talent to sniff the NFL, Moore and Coleman are both on NFL rosters! Getting gashed by terrible teams is a far cry from getting gashed from teams with decent talent who actually made bowl games(Tulane would probably be our only sub par OOC foe to make a bowl game). So when you're describing bad and very bad teams, I wonder what adjective you would use for OrSt, Rutgers and Tulane...
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I was pissed watching the number of times our receivers were held by Indiana in the middle while running crossing routes
until I took off my rose colored glasses and saw we were doing it too
until I took off my rose colored glasses and saw we were doing it too
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Post-Game Notes
1. By now, everyone is aware that Dwayne Haskins had a (nearly) record-breaking performance against Indiana, with 455 passing yards (2nd best in Ohio State history), 33 completions (tied for best), and 6 touchdown passes (tied for best).
Art Schlichter still holds the Ohio State record for passing yards in a game, with 31 completions for 458 against Florida State in 1981. In that game, two Buckeyes accounted for 21 receptions (67.7%) and 378 yards (82.5%), as wide receiver Gary Williams caught 13 passes (2nd best at Ohio State) for 220 yards (3rd best at Ohio State); and wide receiver Cedric Anderson had 8 receptions for 158 yards. Yesterday, Haskins had much better distribution than Schlichter, as five receivers caught at least 4 passes, and six receivers had at least 40 yards.
Regarding the other passing records: J.T. Barrett had 33 completions in a game (Penn State, 2017) and twice had 6 touchdown passes in a game (Kent State, 2014; Bowling Green, 2016). Kenny Guiton also had 6 touchdown passes in a game (Florida A+M, 2013).
2. For the season, Haskins has completed 142 of 198 passes (.717) for 1,919 yards, 25 touchdowns, and 4 interceptions. He has a very good chance to set Ohio State single-season records for passing yards (3,330 by Joe Germaine in 1995); completions (240 by J.T. Barrett in 2017); passing touchdowns (35 by J.T. Barrett in 2017); and completion percentage (.653 by Troy Smith in 2006).
3. Parris Campbell was the biggest beneficiary of Haskins outstanding performance, with a career-high 9 receptions for 142 yards and 2 touchdowns. For the season, Campbell is now leading Ohio State in receptions (35), receiving yards (501), and touchdown receptions (7).
In case you were wondering, Ohio State's single-season receiving records are as follows:
Campbell probably has no shot at any of those records, but with a strong finish to the campaign, he could become just the 5th Buckeye to gain 1,000+ receiving yards in a single season, joining David Boston (1,435 yards in 1998); Terry Glenn (1,411 yards in 1995); Cris Carter (1,127 yards in 1986); and Michael Jenkins (1,076 yards in 2002).
4. With his 71-yard TD reception yesterday, Parris Campbell now has four touchdown receptions of 60+ yards (63, 69, 71, 74 yards), second only to Devin Smith who has five (60, 63, 72, 80, 90 yards).
5. Johnnie Dixon had a 39-yard touchdown reception yesterday. Dixon has consistently been a big play receiver for Ohio State, and 8 of his 11 career touchdown receptions have gone for 38+ yards.
6. K.J. Hill caught four more passes yesterday. He has at least four receptions in every game this season, and has caught at least one pass in 26 straight games. The Ohio State record for most consecutive games with a reception is 48, set by Gary Williams from 1979 to 1982.
7. The running game continues to struggle, as J.K. Dobbins and Mike Weber combined for 39 rushes for 152 yards (3.90 ypc) and one touchdown. For the season, Dobbins has 99 carries for 462 yards (4.67 ypc) and 4 TDs, and Weber has 74 carries for 420 yards (5.68 ypc) and 3 TDs, for a combined 173 carries for 882 yards (5.10 ypc) and 7 TDs.
In 2017, Dobbins and Weber combined for 2,029 yards rushing in 14 games. Ironically, this year they are on pace for 2,058 yards rushing (assuming a 14 game season). The difference is in the efficiency, as the duo averaged 6.9 yards per carry last year but are averaging only 5.1 yards per carry this year. J.T. Barrett certainly had his weaknesses in the downfield passing game, but he was undeniably the master of the read-option attack, and the absence of a running quarterback is hurting the running game overall.
8. The defense gave up five more plays of 30+ yards (four passes, one run). Overall, the defense gave up 406 total yards, with an average of 5.8 yards per play.
9. After his breakout performance against Penn State, defensive end Chase Young had an off day against Indiana with 4 tackles and a TFL (no sacks). You can blame offensive holding all you want, but every defensive linemen gets held on every play, and the truly elite ones still find a way to beat those illegal blocks and make big plays. Young is a great player, but his has to up his game a notch or two to reach the Bosa-esque level.
10. Ohio State had nine more penalties for 82 yards, bringing the season totals to 51 penalties (8.5 per game) for 485 yards (80.8 per game).
1. By now, everyone is aware that Dwayne Haskins had a (nearly) record-breaking performance against Indiana, with 455 passing yards (2nd best in Ohio State history), 33 completions (tied for best), and 6 touchdown passes (tied for best).
Art Schlichter still holds the Ohio State record for passing yards in a game, with 31 completions for 458 against Florida State in 1981. In that game, two Buckeyes accounted for 21 receptions (67.7%) and 378 yards (82.5%), as wide receiver Gary Williams caught 13 passes (2nd best at Ohio State) for 220 yards (3rd best at Ohio State); and wide receiver Cedric Anderson had 8 receptions for 158 yards. Yesterday, Haskins had much better distribution than Schlichter, as five receivers caught at least 4 passes, and six receivers had at least 40 yards.
Regarding the other passing records: J.T. Barrett had 33 completions in a game (Penn State, 2017) and twice had 6 touchdown passes in a game (Kent State, 2014; Bowling Green, 2016). Kenny Guiton also had 6 touchdown passes in a game (Florida A+M, 2013).
2. For the season, Haskins has completed 142 of 198 passes (.717) for 1,919 yards, 25 touchdowns, and 4 interceptions. He has a very good chance to set Ohio State single-season records for passing yards (3,330 by Joe Germaine in 1995); completions (240 by J.T. Barrett in 2017); passing touchdowns (35 by J.T. Barrett in 2017); and completion percentage (.653 by Troy Smith in 2006).
3. Parris Campbell was the biggest beneficiary of Haskins outstanding performance, with a career-high 9 receptions for 142 yards and 2 touchdowns. For the season, Campbell is now leading Ohio State in receptions (35), receiving yards (501), and touchdown receptions (7).
In case you were wondering, Ohio State's single-season receiving records are as follows:
Receptions: 85 (David Boston, 1998)
Receiving Yards: 1,435 (David Boston, 1998)
Receiving TDs: 17 (Terry Glenn, 1995)
Receiving Yards: 1,435 (David Boston, 1998)
Receiving TDs: 17 (Terry Glenn, 1995)
Campbell probably has no shot at any of those records, but with a strong finish to the campaign, he could become just the 5th Buckeye to gain 1,000+ receiving yards in a single season, joining David Boston (1,435 yards in 1998); Terry Glenn (1,411 yards in 1995); Cris Carter (1,127 yards in 1986); and Michael Jenkins (1,076 yards in 2002).
4. With his 71-yard TD reception yesterday, Parris Campbell now has four touchdown receptions of 60+ yards (63, 69, 71, 74 yards), second only to Devin Smith who has five (60, 63, 72, 80, 90 yards).
5. Johnnie Dixon had a 39-yard touchdown reception yesterday. Dixon has consistently been a big play receiver for Ohio State, and 8 of his 11 career touchdown receptions have gone for 38+ yards.
6. K.J. Hill caught four more passes yesterday. He has at least four receptions in every game this season, and has caught at least one pass in 26 straight games. The Ohio State record for most consecutive games with a reception is 48, set by Gary Williams from 1979 to 1982.
7. The running game continues to struggle, as J.K. Dobbins and Mike Weber combined for 39 rushes for 152 yards (3.90 ypc) and one touchdown. For the season, Dobbins has 99 carries for 462 yards (4.67 ypc) and 4 TDs, and Weber has 74 carries for 420 yards (5.68 ypc) and 3 TDs, for a combined 173 carries for 882 yards (5.10 ypc) and 7 TDs.
In 2017, Dobbins and Weber combined for 2,029 yards rushing in 14 games. Ironically, this year they are on pace for 2,058 yards rushing (assuming a 14 game season). The difference is in the efficiency, as the duo averaged 6.9 yards per carry last year but are averaging only 5.1 yards per carry this year. J.T. Barrett certainly had his weaknesses in the downfield passing game, but he was undeniably the master of the read-option attack, and the absence of a running quarterback is hurting the running game overall.
8. The defense gave up five more plays of 30+ yards (four passes, one run). Overall, the defense gave up 406 total yards, with an average of 5.8 yards per play.
9. After his breakout performance against Penn State, defensive end Chase Young had an off day against Indiana with 4 tackles and a TFL (no sacks). You can blame offensive holding all you want, but every defensive linemen gets held on every play, and the truly elite ones still find a way to beat those illegal blocks and make big plays. Young is a great player, but his has to up his game a notch or two to reach the Bosa-esque level.
10. Ohio State had nine more penalties for 82 yards, bringing the season totals to 51 penalties (8.5 per game) for 485 yards (80.8 per game).
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buckeyes_rock
Great day to be a Buckeye
If my math is correct, after giving up 301 yards of offense in the first half, the Bucks only gave up 105 in the second. I rewatched the first couple first half series and the defense was just not disciplined...losing containment and assignment. Most of that is correctable, so I still have hope that we will start seeing this D gel. But as most have come to realize, we just aren't as talented in the back 7 as we are used to, so the ceiling is lower than our expectations I fear.
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