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Indiana Hoosiers Basketball (Dead Program)

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NFBuck

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Total Coverage.
    • The long, slow death march that is IU Basketball, post Bobby Knight, continues. Archie Miller gone after 4 years, zero conference titles, zero NCAA berths a 67-56 record overall and a 33-43 record vs. the B1G.



    Being that they seem to think they're still relevant and totally not the basketball version of Corn Football, every pie in the sky name you can imagine is being thrown out as potential candidates to replace Archie.
     
    NFBuck said:
    Being that they seem to think they're still relevant and totally not the basketball version of Corn Football, every pie in the sky name you can imagine is being thrown out as potential candidates to replace Archie.
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    Yeah, even Thad's name is out there:

    Still one of college basketball's top jobs? This IU coaching search will let us know.

    Thad Matta
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    Indiana fans won’t need much of a refresher course in Matta’s credentials. He went 12-11 against the Hoosiers across 13 seasons at Ohio State, and recruited some of the state’s most-outstanding players to Columbus. Matta’s achievement at his peak would be a dream for IU fans — nine-time Big Ten regular-season or tournament champion, three-time Big Ten coach of the year, two-time Final Four participant. Health issues appeared to slow Matta down near the end of his Ohio State tenure, as he won just 38 games in his last two seasons and recruiting slumped. But Matta reportedly wants to return to coaching, under the right circumstances. He’s still only 53 (54 in July). If his time off has renewed and reinvigorated him, Indiana could do much worse.

    Entire article: https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...n-beilein-tony-bennett-scott-drew/6930968002/
     
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    Jake said:
    Sure glad the Hoosiers pounced on Archie and the Buckeyes had to settle for Holtmann, who was in their backyard at Butler.
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    Indeed. I'll admit, I was pretty damn disappointed when IU snatched up Archie in 2017...then kinda pissed that the program decided to move on from Thad a few months later. However, the more I looked into Holtmann, the more pleased I became. I have to admit, though, I'm surprised Archie did so poorly there. I really thought he would at least get them back consistently to the better years of the Crean-era. I'm just not sure IU is a program that can be resurrected at this point.

    Since firing Knight, 21 seasons have yielded:
    394-291 (.575) Overall
    183-186 (.496) vs B1G
    Final AP Top-25 - 4 Times
    2 B1G Regular Season Champs (Both Crean)
    0 B1G Tourney Champs
    10 NCAA Berths
    4 Sweet 16
    1 Elite 8
    1 Final 4
    1 NC Game (Loss)

    The Elite 8, Final 4 and NC Game Appearance occurred in 2001, Mike Davis's 2nd season, 20 years ago.

    Hell, even in Knight's last 6 years, they never made it past the second round of the NCAAs. You have to go back almost 30 years to find when they were a consistent top-tier team. Last NC was in 1987, 34 years ago.
     
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    Systems_id said:
    Wonder if they go after Belien. Would be an amazing hire.
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    While I agree it could be a good hire, there's a couple of things to take into account with Beilein...

    Age: He's 68 right now and would turn 69 midway through the B1G schedule next season.
    System: He seems to run a particular system, and that system took several years to get going at tsun. His first five years were fairly "meh" up there.
    The IU job itself: I've seen chatter that Archie is still a good coach, but just couldn't cut it in a fishbowl like IU. Would Beilein succeed in a pressure cooker like Indiana? He oversaw a program that was always, despite what the DFBIA wants to say now, a distant second to football in terms of pressure/expectations.

    The next coach is gonna have a pretty decent sized rebuild on their hands. Is that something a guy approaching his seventies can do? I'm not so sure.
     
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    Kelvin Sampson already on his way into town. 8D

    Dane Fife and Beilein seem like top candidates.

    Archie is a fine coach and will likely find some success again later but his offense is archaic. He’ll win at a lower school, playing his style I think. Bloomington is just a mess of a place to go right now with the fan base.
     
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    OHSportsFan said:
    Kelvin Sampson already on his way into town. 8D

    Dane Fife and Beilein seem like top candidates.

    Archie is a fine coach and will likely find some success again later but his offense is archaic. He’ll win at a lower school, playing his style I think. Bloomington is just a mess of a place to go right now with the fan base.
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    Dane Fife would be an interesting (if somewhat risky) hire. He's an alum, has some lower-level HC experience and has spent 10 years coaching under Izzo. Their fanbase is going to get themselves into a big lather about bigger names like Brad Stevens ( :lol: ), but I think they'll end up "settling" and a former player/protégé of Izzo might not be a bad way to go.
     
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    NFBuck said:
    Dane Fife would be an interesting (if somewhat risky) hire. He's an alum, has some lower-level HC experience and has spent 10 years coaching under Izzo. Their fanbase is going to get themselves into a big lather about bigger names like Brad Stevens ( :lol: ), but I think they'll end up "settling" and a former player/protégé of Izzo might not be a bad way to go.
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    Like you said though, the downside if things go south you’re now firing a “savior” of sorts. An alum that is really well liked and a part of some great teams. What do you do then? They seem stuck between wanting an outsider but also a “Hoosier”...bad spot to be.

    (see: ttun, Harbaugh)
     
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    OHSportsFan said:
    Like you said though, the downside if things go south you’re now firing a “savior” of sorts. An alum that is really well liked and a part of some great teams. What do you do then? They seem stuck between wanting an outsider but also a “Hoosier”...bad spot to be.

    (see: ttun, Harbaugh)
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    Yeah, maybe. I don't know that "savior" is an appropriate tag for Fife. That to me implies somebody that has already had a lot of success elsewhere and comes in with a lot of hype. I've seen Fife mentioned, but I don't see a groundswell of support for bringing him in. Most seem to mention him as a fallback option if they strike out with bigger names. Besides, like I said, I don't know that there is anybody outside of a well-established, almost bullet-proof coach that can get that program back to where they think they belong. They haven't been a consistent winner since the early-nineties...back in the Calbert Cheaney days.
     
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