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Game Thread Illinois 28, Ohio State 21 (final)

i just want to know the answers to a few questions:

1. will any players be suspended for the game?
2. if so, what then?
3. how bad is chris wells hurt now?
4. how bad is mo wells hurt?

if osu can go into A2 with nobody suspended and wells somewhat healthy then i think osu wins close....if not, we are getting beat
 
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Just read 40 pages of mostly junk minus some post from the old steady hands around here:

I am not adding anything new just releasing some junk and moving forward:

- First, I felt sick after seeing Kirk Barton and how upset he was... Nothing was really made all week about this being the Sr's last game because we have so few, but wow... how could we let these guys lose their last home game...

- Little curious we didn't see Saine in the game at all. Beanie is hurt every play, Mo was done for the day. I don't think he would have a made a difference in the outcome just curious we didn't see him

- TO's kill. We needed points so bad on that first drive of the 2nd half... Some really terrible plays by Todd, but on the other side some GREAT decisions and clutch runs... You get that with a first year starter

- Juice played like Troy Smith today... Great performance from that young man.. Wish it didn't happen at our expense, but he played lights out.

- Great job by not getting penalties from Illini.. I recall only like one or two..One blatant hold when our DE was tackled

- Seemed like our safties bit and bit hard on PA... We can not have that next week or SCUM will light us up

- DT's - Ummm wow... I have said they are our achillies heel and after this game I believe that more then ever.

I am bummed.. A LOT but to be 10-1(edited:thanks sandk) at this point is good with such a young team....But just hurts when you lose to a lesser team and it is hard to look at that big picture sometimes but it is true even if I am just saying to feel better right now

- Finally, it is Michigan week... It will be interesting to see how this team responds from this blow... I can see it going anyway, will the loss bring them down, or will the leadership on this team not let that happen and play balls to the wall out on Saturday?? I know what team I want to see and if I had to guess.. WE WILL SEE THAT TEAM

Go Bucks!!!!:oh:
 
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Kiki_Buckeye;990676; said:
This is why this loss sux sooo bad - no respect - AT ALL. This article, however, painful to read, is true (no one cares about the OSU-scUM match-up - not even anyone in the midwest). The only part of the story that is NOT true is the part where the Bucks are considered overrated.

The Illini did not beat us - we just didn't come to play. The problem though is that is not how the rest of the nation sees it. That kind of suxs as well. I knew we had something serious to prove when we were #1 for like 3-4 weeks and the headlines kept highlighting every other team in the top 25. My hope was that we had the opportunity to demolish LSU in the NC and shut everyone up about the SEC conference dominating ours. Now we have to go yet another year with that albatross around our necks. For those of you happy to play for the Rose Bowl, well I'm surprised that you are willing to accept that. Read the story and weep. If you become defensive, your head is deep in the sand.

"At long last, our national nightmare is over.

You made it abundantly clear over the past month, America. You did not want to see another Ohio State national-title appearance. Not because of some inherent aversion toward scarlet and gray (I hope), but because ? well, it just didn?t feel right.

No. 1 again? Really? After what happened against Florida? After possibly going the entire regular season without defeating a nationally respected opponent?

I remained somewhat skeptical of the Buckeyes myself, not because they weren?t a solid team, but because they weren?t being adequately tested by their schedule. Were they to meet an LSU or Oregon in New Orleans, the result would likely be similar to last year?s Florida beatdown -- not because those teams are inordinately better than Ohio State, but because the Buckeyes haven?t faced the type of speed during the regular season to prepare them for such an event. Mercifully -- as much for Ohio State?s sake as ours -- we no longer have to worry about that.

Speaking of speed, the Buckeyes had gone their first 10 games without facing a mobile quarterback the likes of Illinois? Juice Williams. The sophomore has been largely erratic all season, but watching him Saturday, you would have thought he was Dennis Dixon.

Williams walked into the sold-out Horseshoe and threw a career-high four touchdowns against the nation?s top-ranked defense. Those four scores, along with the defense?s three interceptions of Ohio State QB Todd Boeckman, gave Illinois the lead, but it was Williams? feet that gave the Illini the win. Four times on Illinois? game-sealing, eight-minute, 15-play drive, the Chicago native converted a third or fourth down with a run to wrap up the 28-21 stunner.

A quarterback comes of age. An oft-criticized coach, Ron Zook, earns a landmark victory. A tradition-starved program pulls off its first win over a No. 1 team since 1956. Of all teams, Illinois turns the national-title race upside down.

At this point, nothing about this season can possibly surprise me -- Ohio State is merely the ninth top-five team to lose to an unranked foe this fall -- but think about how quickly its complexion changed Saturday. Seven hours ago, we were looking toward another epic OSU-Michigan showdown between two teams with undefeated Big Ten records; the two rivals will still play for a conference title and Rose Bowl berth next week, but few outside the Midwest will care...."

You again? :tibor:

You keep screaming for respect but they just lost to an unranked team AT HOME. Perhaps your never ending wailing for respect should be directed to yourself and not to a national writer whose job is to essentially tell it like it is in this case.

Mandel's article isn't horrible at all, in fact, it is a mostly fair assessment of what happened. If you can't see that, get your eyes examined.

Seriously, if you need the national media to write glowing reviews of the Buckeyes win or lose to validate your view of the team, you are seriously going to be disappointed all the time and might I say, you seriously need to get YOUR head checked.

Now quit your whining, although you've already stated the Michigan game doesn't mean anything too you and run along.
 
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1. will any players be suspended for the game?
2. if so, what then?
3. how bad is chris wells hurt now?
4. how bad is mo wells hurt?
1 - Doubt it... you can not allow a team to disrespect your home and the heat of the loss and emotions will be considered... just no way do I see anyone get suspended

2 - It will stay an in house issue

3 - He is always hurt it seems.. It is hard to gauge at this point.. It is a cliche' we have used all year, but if he wants to be a warrior then next week is when warriors are made...

4 - I thought I heard a hammy and that could be a couple day thing to couple week thing...
 
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craig asked about Saine:
In my opinion Saine hasn't been the same since the procedure on his knee. He starts slow and doesn't look to be able (or willing) to try and make any type of cuts on it.

He's looked alright in the open field, but seems to be running scared. Not scared of contact, but scared of his knee.

Maybe, hopefully, I'm wrong. He'll be needed next week.
 
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unionfutura;957056; said:
I curious how our safeties will look against a team that can run the ball. In practice they bite on play action way too much.

unionfutura;957045; said:
no offense but our D isn't much improved. I'll take last year's version any day of the week. We haven't played anybody that can test that yet. Starting with MSU in a few weeks we'll have 4 weeks in a row to prove me wrong, but our DL is the weakest I've seen in practice since 01.

Having said that the big ten is the weakest it's been since 1990.
Some very prescient thoughts from unionfutura - weak DL play and safeties biting on the play action pretty much doomed Ohio State.

BP Recruiting Team;544233; said:
The Buckeyes' Top Prospects for 2006
May Evaluation Edition

2. Isiah "Juice" Williams, Chicago Vocational (6' 1", 210 lbs, 4.61 forty); Illinois verbal. Although he is an athletic player, Williams is definitely a quarterback prospect who will be a "dual threat" signal caller in college. In ten games as a junior, Juice rushed for 843 yards and scored 14 touchdowns, while passing for an additional 982 yards and 17 touchdowns. Isiah is much more comfortable and patient in the pocket than fellow Chicagoan Demetrius Jones - he exhibits a quick and confident set up, excellent footwork, good vision, and an ultra-fluid delivery; in addition, Isiah is adept at play faking, and he runs play-action passes like a pro. To complete the package, the kid has an absolute rocket arm, with the ability to send the ball forty yards downfield with a mere flick of his wrist. During the recent Ann Arbor Nike camp, Williams displayed his tremendous arm strength, on one occasion throwing a pass 85 yards and hitting his receiver in stride. In the videos which we reviewed, most of Isiah's runs were planned, either as rollouts, options, or quarterback draws; although he has obvious natural skills as a rusher, Williams was able to set up his runs with deft play fakes and instinctive timing. Juice is close to a finished product already, and with a coat of polish he should be ready to take over the reins of a major college program.
The BPRT's take on Juice Williams from May of 2005....
 
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Kiki_Buckeye;990676; said:
This is why this loss sux sooo bad - no respect - AT ALL. This article, however, painful to read, is true (no one cares about the OSU-scUM match-up - not even anyone in the midwest). The only part of the story that is NOT true is the part where the Bucks are considered overrated.

The Illini did not beat us - we just didn't come to play. The problem though is that is not how the rest of the nation sees it. That kind of suxs as well. I knew we had something serious to prove when we were #1 for like 3-4 weeks and the headlines kept highlighting every other team in the top 25. My hope was that we had the opportunity to demolish LSU in the NC and shut everyone up about the SEC conference dominating ours. Now we have to go yet another year with that albatross around our necks. For those of you happy to play for the Rose Bowl, well I'm surprised that you are willing to accept that. Read the story and weep. If you become defensive, your head is deep in the sand.

"At long last, our national nightmare is over.

You made it abundantly clear over the past month, America. You did not want to see another Ohio State national-title appearance. Not because of some inherent aversion toward scarlet and gray (I hope), but because ? well, it just didn?t feel right.

No. 1 again? Really? After what happened against Florida? After possibly going the entire regular season without defeating a nationally respected opponent?

I remained somewhat skeptical of the Buckeyes myself, not because they weren?t a solid team, but because they weren?t being adequately tested by their schedule. Were they to meet an LSU or Oregon in New Orleans, the result would likely be similar to last year?s Florida beatdown -- not because those teams are inordinately better than Ohio State, but because the Buckeyes haven?t faced the type of speed during the regular season to prepare them for such an event. Mercifully -- as much for Ohio State?s sake as ours -- we no longer have to worry about that.

Speaking of speed, the Buckeyes had gone their first 10 games without facing a mobile quarterback the likes of Illinois? Juice Williams. The sophomore has been largely erratic all season, but watching him Saturday, you would have thought he was Dennis Dixon.

Williams walked into the sold-out Horseshoe and threw a career-high four touchdowns against the nation?s top-ranked defense. Those four scores, along with the defense?s three interceptions of Ohio State QB Todd Boeckman, gave Illinois the lead, but it was Williams? feet that gave the Illini the win. Four times on Illinois? game-sealing, eight-minute, 15-play drive, the Chicago native converted a third or fourth down with a run to wrap up the 28-21 stunner.

A quarterback comes of age. An oft-criticized coach, Ron Zook, earns a landmark victory. A tradition-starved program pulls off its first win over a No. 1 team since 1956. Of all teams, Illinois turns the national-title race upside down.

At this point, nothing about this season can possibly surprise me -- Ohio State is merely the ninth top-five team to lose to an unranked foe this fall -- but think about how quickly its complexion changed Saturday. Seven hours ago, we were looking toward another epic OSU-Michigan showdown between two teams with undefeated Big Ten records; the two rivals will still play for a conference title and Rose Bowl berth next week, but few outside the Midwest will care...."

 
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Ugh. Gaterubet mentioned this before and might have been watching this game with a smirk on his face. We got Zooked.

Besides a couple hair-brained decisions and no-calls by the refs, we just got beat. Discounting youth, and lack of depth or talent, the only way to beat a Tressel coached team is to, sadly, play Tressel ball. Win the TOP, win the ground game, win the field position battle, and take advantage of turnovers. And they did that to perfection last night.

Why we got away from running the ball I will never know. However, considering we've only been beat by an on-paper inferior team maybe 3-4 times in Tressel's career here, I'll let that slide.

Beat Michigan and go to the Rose Bowl. Not too shabby...
 
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