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IL OL Erik Swenson (Oklahoma Signee)

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My high school attracted quite a few college coaches and our head coach of 40 years banned more than one. One coach in particular went from Marshall to Navy and he was not allowed in the school when he switched schools. Coaches can ruin themselves at certain schools.
 
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Hstead said:
My high school attracted quite a few college coaches and our head coach of 40 years banned more than one. One coach in particular went from Marshall to Navy and he was not allowed in the school when he switched schools. Coaches can ruin themselves at certain schools.
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Let's not go overboard here. Hairball is a weird, childish, pompous a hole, but he's still a big name coach at a big name school and has done the same practices at another college and little was done when he did it there. I hope some coaches do ban him, but then what he plans more slumber parties and Netflix and chill nights with recruits
 
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pnuts34 said:
I honestly doubt it affects them long term. Hairball is known for this and still has a top 5 class. HS coaches know CFB recruiting is shady. SEC schools pull schollies when kids are on campus yet Bama just won an NC, Ole Miss is still recruiting elite talent as is Auburn and the rest of the conference
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He did it a lot at Stanford, but wasn't in the spotlight in any sense. He is now. They've been riding the press' coat tails a lot this year... I mean their current class looks to be largely based on media hype. What happens when the press starts to turn on him here and there?
SEC has had fallout too. Florida coaches telling Spurrier he's no longer welcome. I'm not sure it's fair to bring up schools like Ole Miss and Auburn that equal the playing field with other considerations... then again, I suppose Michigan has a history of that too.


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Fair statments, however, as a coach, were multiple programs to approach me about a kid and one had a rep for doing things like that and the others didn't... who do you think I'm going to spend less time with? Regardless of 'brand' name? Seriously...

What happened is a fact of life. As someone else said that if we celebrate flipping a couple of 4*s three weeks before NLOID we have to kinda take this with a grain of salt. Sure a grown man has greater responsibility, but his responsibility is to his program. That said, exercise that responsibility mixed with poor judgment too often, it will come back to bite you.

Frankly, I'm just glad that this kind of thing hardly ever happens in my sport. We get 12.6 'ships per a team of 45 in D1... at the end of the day, almost everyone is a walk on. Most kids playing at the next level are happy to continue playing a sport they love... cuz it ain't for what they're going to be making playing as a pro.
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Thing is, the guys we flipped all had coaching changes this year. Edsall was fired awhile ago, but Locksley wasn't until December.
It's not surprising it took a month or so for them to reconsider everything and choose a different path.

On the other hand, Harbaugh has had scUM for over a year now... and waiting until weeks before NLOID to start shedding people? Remember this isn't the only guy with a verbal that's been booted in the last month. It looks like there will be 5 or 6 such guys.
That's just cut throat. For all their grandstanding... they're in the thick of questionable ethics :popcorn:
Makes a great counter points for our guys AFAIC... negative recruiting happens.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
What happened is a fact of life. As someone else said that if we celebrate flipping a couple of 4*s three weeks before NLOID we have to kinda take this with a grain of salt. Sure a grown man has greater responsibility, but his responsibility is to his program. That said, exercise that responsibility mixed with poor judgment too often, it will come back to bite you.
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I think there's a significant difference between flipping a kid three weeks before NLOID and having a kid's scholarship offer yanked weeks before NLOID with zero explanation despite his being committed for over a year.
 
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kujirakira said:
He did it a lot at Stanford, but wasn't in the spotlight in any sense. He is now. They've been riding the press' coat tails a lot this year... I mean their current class looks to be largely based on media hype. What happens when the press starts to turn on him here and there?
SEC has had fallout too. Florida coaches telling Spurrier he's no longer welcome. I'm not sure it's fair to bring up schools like Ole Miss and Auburn that equal the playing field with other considerations... then again, I suppose Michigan has a history of that too.




Thing is, the guys we flipped all had coaching changes this year. Edsall was fired awhile ago, but Locksley wasn't until December.
It's not surprising it took a month or so for them to reconsider everything and choose a different path.

On the other hand, Harbaugh has had scUM for over a year now... and waiting until weeks before NLOID to start shedding people? Remember this isn't the only guy with a verbal that's been booted in the last month. It looks like there will be 5 or 6 such guys.
That's just cut throat. For all their grandstanding... they're in the thick of questionable ethics :popcorn:
Makes a great counter points for our guys AFAIC... negative recruiting happens.
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HS coaches know what it is when CFB coaches come to their. Some are slimier than others, but the best have some type of shady to be so damn good(including Meyer). Hairball has taken slimey to a new level with some of his tactics but its no different than when Real Sports did the expose on SEC teams pulling schollies after one year to make room for a higher ranked kid in recruiting when they oversign.

And OSU flips kids regardless for the simple fact of winning. It is what it is, if fans don't like it then CFB isn't for them. We flipped KJ Hill, Gareon Conley and Taylor Decker and none were in the midst of coaching changes and none of us complained. Because who cares, if it means we win.
What scUM is doing is very sketchy, but hey so is much of CFB recruiting. If this is the way that Hairball wants to run his program(while he's temporarily there) then by all means have had it. Not one player that hez recruited am I worried about. OSU has bigger fish to fry than scUM, winning NCs and Conference titles. Something that scUM isnt yet on the level of, and OSU is rolling, on the field and on the recruiting trail. ScUM is still a tier lower, they'll beat up on IU, Minny, Maryland, etc but we all know who runs this and Urban put an exclamation point on The Game
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
I think there's a significant difference between flipping a kid three weeks before NLOID and having a kid's scholarship offer yanked weeks before NLOID with zero explanation despite his being committed for over a year.
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Offering opportunity is much different than taking it away.
 
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pnuts34 said:
HS coaches know what it is when CFB coaches come to their. Some are slimier than others, but the best have some type of shady to be so damn good(including Meyer). Hairball has taken slimey to a new level with some of his tactics but its no different than when Real Sports did the expose on SEC teams pulling schollies after one year to make room for a higher ranked kid in recruiting when they oversign.

And OSU flips kids regardless for the simple fact of winning. It is what it is, if fans don't like it then CFB isn't for them. We flipped KJ Hill, Gareon Conley and Taylor Decker and none were in the midst of coaching changes and none of us complained. Because who cares, if it means we win.
What scUM is doing is very sketchy, but hey so is much of CFB recruiting. If this is the way that Hairball wants to run his program(while he's temporarily there) then by all means have had it. Not one player that hez recruited am I worried about. OSU has bigger fish to fry than scUM, winning NCs and Conference titles. Something that scUM isnt yet on the level of, and OSU is rolling, on the field and on the recruiting trail. ScUM is still a tier lower, they'll beat up on IU, Minny, Maryland, etc but we all know who runs this and Urban put an exclamation point on The Game
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I'm not of the mindset that everything we do is pure and holy.
Just enjoying all the scUM fans who do think that way... and Harbaugh's own history with such claims and cheap shots trying to look morally superior.
 
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kujirakira said:
I'm not of the mindset that everything we do is pure and holy.
Just enjoying all the scUM fans who do think that way... and Harbaugh's own history with such claims and cheap shots trying to look morally superior.
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I'm with you! I'm content sitting watching the scUM lap up everything Hairball is selling. A scUM fan is at my gym and he's actual pretty sensible and the only thought he can give me is "he's a lunatic but at least he's our lunatic", I think that's the underlying thought of many scUM fans. They can only defend the actions because he's "theirs", but they have to be watching what's going on in Cbus and trembling. Hairball is selling fools gold as platinum and they're buying in bulk. And I'm sure after next season they have to worry every year that he may actually leave them, while Meyer ain't going anywhere anytime soon and is just getting started
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
I think there's a significant difference between flipping a kid three weeks before NLOID and having a kid's scholarship offer yanked weeks before NLOID with zero explanation despite his being committed for over a year.
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If in any way you took that as being apologetic for hairball, then I didn't communicate my point well.

Perhaps more directly. It's a cut throat biz. Hairball did what he did and it's his right. It's my belief (and hope) that HS coaches see this and have a long memory as, while its his right, it's not the right way to handle things.
 
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http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2016/01/coach_erik_swenson_was_told_by.html

"Coach Drevno called and said 'we're going to encourage Erik to take his five visits,'" Molinari said Friday evening. "I asked him specifically 'Are you pulling his offer?' The answer was 'No, we just want to continue to feel each other out.' I said 'Coach, are you pulling his offer?' and the answer was no.

"He was never told (in the fall) that you're being re-evaluated. We wouldn't have put ourselves in this position (if he was). Erik didn't have any official visits to go on and he hadn't gone any because he hadn't planned on going anywhere but the University of Michigan."
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Molinari says Swenson was not asked to attend any Michigan camp this summer and was not given any indication that his scholarship was in jeopardy until early January.

Swenson and Molinari attended the Michigan-Ohio State game Nov. 28. During that trip, Molinari says Swenson had contact with Drevno and was not given "any indication that this wasn't going to work out."
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"The truth is, Erik's season was completed at the end of October and the beginning of November. If they weren't happy with his play, then they had the opportunity to tell him from November into all of December," Molinari said. "But we never had anything close to a conversation like that until the beginning of January. And even then, we were told they're not pulling his scholarship, but that they wanted him to explore and take all of his visits.

"I'm not saying Erik doesn't have opportunities (now). There are opportunities. But when I called coaches at some of the best schools in the nation that were offering Erik, I said 'coach, we can't believe you're calling, we're all full and we don't have anything.' That's where I'm extremely frustrated right now as the head football coach at our high school."
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