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If defensive staff changes are coming, who should OSU be looking to hire?

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ShowMeBuck said:
Has everyone already forgotten the abysmal year the D had? ....and then we lose the best coach on that side of the ball. This is big business folks and from a purely business decision this looks like an absolutely great hire. Especially if coupled with the right DC. Put it this way: if you were not a Buckeye fan and were an outsider looking in you would say LJ was a perfect hire and there really isn't much of an argument. So, why does that change just because we are Buckeye fans? I also tend to think if the man had the exact same resume coupled with the same hatred from other teams in the conference regarding negative recruiting, etc. we would be his biggest defender.

* Assuming he had knowledge of the Sandusky stuff and looked the other way is an absolutely huge leap. Sorry but I just think that kind of talk is way off base. Who knows what he knew? Unless I see fact to the contrary that type comment just seems like pure speculation.
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I feel like a hypocrite cheering for a person who I had such contempt for while at a place I have such contempt for. The moves he pulled while at Penn State, if true, are shitty ways to do things. I'm still sketchy about how he even got the job in the first place. Oh look at that.....your kid is a stud RB? Sure you can coach here. Turns out it was a great hire for them, but was he worthy of it at the time?


Bottom line....I didn't like the shit he pulled at Penn State. Putting a different color shirt on doesn't mean I all of a sudden condone it.
 
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How bad do you want to win a National Championship? That's the bottom line, here. Do you just look the other way and justify any hiring or tactic? Isn't that what happened at Ped State? Winning at all costs? It's Urban's call but I will never like this hiring.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
I feel like a hypocrite cheering for a person who I had such contempt for while at a place I have such contempt for. The moves he pulled while at Penn State, if true, are [Mark May]ty ways to do things. I'm still sketchy about how he even got the job in the first place. Oh look at that.....your kid is a stud RB? Sure you can coach here. Turns out it was a great hire for them, but was he worthy of it at the time?


Bottom line....I didn't like the [Mark May] he pulled at Penn State. Putting a different color shirt on doesn't mean I all of a sudden condone it.
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Agreed. I will hope that he does a fantastic job at Ohio State, but that doesn't mean I have to like or respect him.
 
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Taosman said:
How bad do you want to win a National Championship? That's the bottom line, here. Do you just look the other way and justify any hiring or tactic? Isn't that what happened at Ped State? Winning at all costs? It's Urban's call but I will never like this hiring.
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What are you talking about? How is hiring an excellent coach "winning at all costs?" Looking the other way for what "tactic?"
 
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buchtelgrad04 said:
What are you talking about? How is hiring an excellent coach "winning at all costs?" Looking the other way for what "tactic?"
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bigdog3300 said:
Agreed - if hired, he's an asset to this team that's going to help us win and that's all I care about.....just win, baby! And if you can make PSU's fan base go insane at the same time, gravy.
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I don't know....maybe the 'just win, baby!'?
 
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buchtelgrad04 said:
You're trying to find any reason to not like the hire.
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On the flip side, you seem to be trying find any reason to like the hire. Covering for a cover-upper.

You don't know anything about my motivations. I'm not looking for reasons to like or dislike the hire. I simply see what I see, and it makes a little bit of puke rise up in the back of my throat.
 
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I think the official line with Holley was that they passed because he wasn't ready to commit and Ohio State didn't want to hold a spot for him. Part of the reason why they didn't want to hold a spot was because he wouldn't choke you over a game of checkers.

If Larry Johnson comes to Ohio State and feels like he can turn Holley into an All Big Ten player then that would likely change.
 
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