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How Strong is Civilized Society?

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jimotis4heisman;1212199; said:
1-yes, yes
you have a cat 4 hurricane headed at a major population center and you evacuate it a day before, not good. mississippi was hit much harder than la. even nagin himself said that those in the superdome ("the refuge of last resort" would need to bring food and water for themselve-atleast 3 days worth. i think you also have to remember that this was the first evacuation of NOLA since the civil war. the reality is how do you get supplies into a city at or below sea level during a hurricane? airlift, truck, rail, ship? no-no-no-no it was unrealistic. im a firm believer in responsibility for you own actions and success comes from hard work and plannning not luck. blaming nagin-blanco-bush, anyone gets you me and no one else no where.

realities are that the city was flooded or 80% of it some parts with more than the 15 feet. blame the army if you want, blame the founders of the city, blame the mississippi, river, mother nature whoever it doesnt help. this was the larges exvacuation of a major urban area in the history of the country, more than 90% of the people go out. you have a major urban area and a major city center surrounded by water, much of which is above it with lake pontchartrain, ther river etc. you have an area of orleans, jefferson, st bernard that is 49% below sea level, 51 percent above with those above high neighborhood ranges are 10-12 feet, heck the superdome is only what 2 feet above sea level... wasnt it betsy that caused the last big issue. i mean you ahve the entire flood act of 65? that was billions of dollars behind and barely 3/4 complete.

the results of the horrifying natural disaster were deaths, billions of dollars in damages, fema evacuation to houston by greyhound, the martial law costs, fema trailers, the convntion center ordeal, military costs, the fema trailers-which were emergency units meant for temp housing that housed people for how long? and many others. hell like i said slice it dice it could have happened anywhere.

on the fema plans, they were not on file as required. thats the fact. but, NOLA wasnt the only city.
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I'm starting my vacation, so I will respond later. Don't want to start all pissed off. Of course I am not saying everyting you say is wrong, but there is enough you are not considering that it gets me a little hot under the collar. I can talk about many issues with a high degree of calm, but not this general issue. Too many unhappy memories and dead people for me to chat about it cooly.

I'll give it a go when I come back.
 
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Taosman;1212467; said:
The problem here is, as you admit the topics and conversations are above you. So, how can you possibly make any accurate assessment of Nola's situation? You are making a invalid observation. You are just giving an opinion.
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No, it's just above you.
 
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Something tells me I'd been some bad place and Gatorubet and Taosman would be drinking wine at some dinner party talking about how aware they are of the issue. I would knock on the glass patio window for help and their plebeian friends would chase me off. Then everyone would go back to patting themselves on the back about how aware they are about isusses.
 
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DaytonBuck;1215155; said:
Something tells me I'd been some bad place and Gatorubet and Taosman would be drinking wine at some dinner party talking about how aware they are of the issue. I would knock on the glass patio window for help and their plebeian friends would chase me off. Then everyone would go back to patting themselves on the back about how aware they are about isusses.
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Ouch! That hurt! Why don't you eat a bag of dicks, lactate man? :tongue2:
Why the passive-aggressive act?
 
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Taosman;1215164; said:
Ouch! That hurt! Why don't you eat a bag of dicks, lactate man? :tongue2:
Why the passive-aggressive act?
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I've seen to many country club liberals. The same folks with V8 BMW 7 Series that complain about global warming and roll back to their 5,000 square foot houses in Dublin. A trip to Vegas, Europe and skiing Park City all on a jet they'll hit me up at a dinner party telling me how bad global warming is and how we need to be more aware.
 
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Honestly, Dayton, you have anger issues. We all do. Recognize your issues and do what you can about them.
I don't own a Bimmer and never have. And I don't go to dinner parties and drink wine. :tongue2: I'm a beer guy! You'll find me in someones back yard or on a patio, having a hamburger or hotdog.
 
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