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AKAK said:
My understanding is very few have done much about legacy admissions.
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Of course not. Unqualified applicants with rich parents will continue to get admitted because they are largely white. Unqualified people will continue to get jobs because they know the "right people."

The backlash over DEI has to do with one thing and one thing only -excluding people of color.

If ending DEI was truly about "hiring the best people" legacy admissions / job hires would go away. But it's not even mentioned and it's obvious why.
 
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DaiMonMoore said:
Of course not. Unqualified applicants with rich parents will continue to get admitted because they are largely white. Unqualified people will continue to get jobs because they know the "right people."

The backlash over DEI has to do with one thing and one thing only -excluding people of color.

If ending DEI was truly about "hiring the best people" legacy admissions / job hires would go away. But it's not even mentioned and it's obvious why.
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I mean you're not directing this at me are you?
 
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AKAK said:
My understanding is very few have done much about legacy admissions.
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Mine too. But they now ostensibly have a basis, or arguably a federal mandate, to do something, and if they're really the radical leftist loony bins that they seem to constantly be said to be, you'd think they would. Of course, ideology, real or alleged, seems to dissipate rather quickly when sticking to it comes with financial pain.
 
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Jagdaddy said:
Mine too. But they now ostensibly have a basis, or arguably a federal mandate, to do something, and if they're really the radical leftist loony bins that they seem to constantly be said to be, you'd think they would. Of course, ideology, real or alleged, seems to dissipate rather quickly when sticking to it comes with financial pain.
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Well, we'll see what happens, the next few cycles. Seems like NYU didn't get the memo on the regular admissions. I don't think any of them are intending to make major changes to legacy admits (not taking them is its own pain, obvs). (And I guess any of them means "generally" -- looks like NYU's 24 cycle got released and it might have some splainin to do)
 
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Someone can fact check me, but back in 'the day', heard/saw that a certain percentage of law school admits were set aside for legacies. Had to be an unwritten rule, probably for above stated reasons. Local attorneys, you know, the ones with their names on the wall, could do lots of good things for the local law school, including influence, money, and clerking/internships etc. All makes the local law school look good/great. Zero direct knowledge, as did not apply to law school admission myself. Could certainly see someone who's name is on a law school building wanting those strings pulled for son/daughter....but also unclear whether favoritism/nepotism is any sort of legal violation. The only color involved is green.
 
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DaiMonMoore said:
Of course not. Unqualified applicants with rich parents will continue to get admitted because they are largely white. Unqualified people will continue to get jobs because they know the "right people."

The backlash over DEI has to do with one thing and one thing only -excluding people of color.

If ending DEI was truly about "hiring the best people" legacy admissions / job hires would go away. But it's not even mentioned and it's obvious why.
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This makes zero sense. Persons of color were the one’s being excluded.
 
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Gonna be off topic, but don't see where else to put this. Given that Doge (all caps?) has hit the east coast schools hard, what with curbing government research funding, seems like mostly the anti-Semite protestations, has tOSU suffered any drop off in it's consulting from the government? Some of the numbers 'cut' seem very large, and with these elite universities cutting research staff etc, seem likely not to regain these funds. Thought tOSU's research grants were in the $2.2 billion area (?), so very significant. Anyway, what Ohio does, doesn't make the papers/news reports in California, and daughter doesn't follow much if at all. Anyone clear the fog away for me? Thanks in advance.
 
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calibuck said:
Gonna be off topic, but don't see where else to put this. Given that Doge (all caps?) has hit the east coast schools hard, what with curbing government research funding, seems like mostly the anti-Semite protestations, has tOSU suffered any drop off in it's consulting from the government? Some of the numbers 'cut' seem very large, and with these elite universities cutting research staff etc, seem likely not to regain these funds. Thought tOSU's research grants were in the $2.2 billion area (?), so very significant. Anyway, what Ohio does, doesn't make the papers/news reports in California, and daughter doesn't follow much if at all. Anyone clear the fog away for me? Thanks in advance.
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OSU estimates a $50 million annual reduction in administrative grants, which are separate from research grants.
 
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My learning from the Apartheid era...universities that support free speech have an advantage in global research funding. Free speech is one thing. Allowing students to be heckled and threatened because of religion, race, gender, etc is unacceptable.
 
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