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DubCoffman62;1945551; said:
Try a couple thousand dollars :lol: Just since May I've sheeled out over $500 for her daughter's Quincenera, her uncle died and I gave her some cash to help her get to Tijuana, I paid her phone bill, I gave her some money to make a payment on a title loan she took out on her car... Over the years it's been mostly help with gas, groceries, I've bought clothes a few times, given her money to go to the doctor. Like I've said, we're very close and I don't mind helping her, I just wish she'd learn to be more responsible. She shelled out a decent amount of her own money for her daughter's party and now I know she wishes she had some of that money back. I always tell her that she has to learn how to see past her nose, of course she has no idea what I mean by it.
IOW, she owes you anal sex.
 
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DubCoffman62;1945551; said:
Try a couple thousand dollars :lol: Just since May I've sheeled out over $500 for her daughter's Quincenera, her uncle died and I gave her some cash to help her get to Tijuana, I paid her phone bill, I gave her some money to make a payment on a title loan she took out on her car... Over the years it's been mostly help with gas, groceries, I've bought clothes a few times, given her money to go to the doctor. Like I've said, we're very close and I don't mind helping her, I just wish she'd learn to be more responsible. She shelled out a decent amount of her own money for her daughter's party and now I know she wishes she had some of that money back. I always tell her that she has to learn how to see past her nose, of course she has no idea what I mean by it.

:eek:

This woman is not your friend, Dub. There is no way a friend would take that kind of money over this kind of time. A friend is someone you hang out with and do stuff with, not someone you have to bail out over and over and over and over.

It's your money, so do with it what you want. But if I were in your shoes, she'd be out of my life.
 
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BUCKYLE;1945591; said:
Now that I have a daughter to take care of, I look at money a bit differently.

Before, I'd have fucked myself over to help out a friend. Money wasn't shit to me, and it didn't mean shit. I'd gladly help out any friend/family who asked, regardless what it did to me.

Now that I have someone that depends on me, those in need can eat a bag of dicks if they're hungry.

So since I have 4 kids, you forgive me for the USC game Kyle????
 
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Muck;1944920; said:
Well ultimately you're acting as an enabler for her. As long as she knows she has a safety net (you) she's less likely to change her behavior.

Bingo. She keeps jumping off the garage roof because she knows there's a new below. As soon as that net isn't there and she hits the grounded, she'll quit jumping...
 
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OCBucksFan;1945570; said:
Sorry mate, you're too nice, I deal with millionaires everyday who would not have done what you have... sounds like you are doing a really good deed, but make sure that good deed doesn't set you back.

I'll use myself as an example, I think everyone knows I am a big supporter of BP, but this year I haven't been able to donate, I know I want to, but with the wife here, being a dependant, 20 bucks is a lot :( Can't let that good deed make us struggle. That's all the advice I can give.
Most of what I has given has come out of the "fun money" that I budget for myself every week for eating out, going to the movie or buying whatever it is that I want but don't need. I've never not been able to pay a bill or go hungry because of her, I've just eaten in or not gone out for fun. If it ever came to my well being or hers she'd be SOL.

muffler dragon;1945581; said:
Take this FWIW (or I suggest don't even reading it).

I'm just about [censored]ed beyond reason reading this Dub. Unless this chick's personality some how illuminates your world, you're getting financially [censored]ed six ways from Sunday. She's a leech. Moreover, she's teaching her child not to worry about personal financial responsibility. The young lady's just going to be one more leech.

Furthermore, if you really want to see how she "values" your relationship, then cut her off and see if she stays around. I bet dollars to pesos that she's on to the next John who pays her [Mark May].
You're absolutely right, that's why I sometimes refer to her as "la sin verguenza" because I'd never have the balls to repeatedly ask someone for money the like that. One of my personality flaws is feeling guilty having it well while others are scraping to make it. I suppose it's my way of alleviating the guilt, by feeling that I helped someone. I've cut her off a few times and she's always stuck around. She always thanks me for all that I've done and says she doesn't know what she'd do without me which of course makes me feel like shit.
BUCKYLE;1945591; said:
Now that I have a daughter to take care of, I look at money a bit differently.

Before, I'd have [censored]ed myself over to help out a friend. Money wasn't [Mark May] to me, and it didn't mean [Mark May]. I'd gladly help out any friend/family who asked, regardless what it did to me.

Now that I have someone that depends on me, those in need can eat a bag of dicks if they're hungry.

I guess my advice is knock some chick up. It may just save you money.
I guess that's kind of where I'm at too. Nobody goes hungry if I give so and so x amount of money for something. No kids, the house is paid for, I don't owe anyone any money. You could be right though, maybe I need something to change my outlook and priorities.

Muck;1945612; said:
There's your answer...just have her deported.

Unfortunately she's legal at the moment but she needs to renew her residency card soon, I hear they're kind of expensive, what if she comes up a little short and I don't help her out?

knapplc;1945616; said:
:eek:

This woman is not your friend, Dub. There is no way a friend would take that kind of money over this kind of time. A friend is someone you hang out with and do stuff with, not someone you have to bail out over and over and over and over.

It's your money, so do with it what you want. But if I were in your shoes, she'd be out of my life.

I don't want to make a broad sweeping generalization here and get into trouble but it's been my experience that many people like her (lower class of a third world country) see others not as friends, although I believe she sincerely thinks of herself as a friend but a means to an end. Alittle background on her. She's from Mexico, in the village where she was brought up girls are auctioned off to husbands at the age of 15, her husband was a total bastard who never taught her anything about the outside world or how to survive, she speaks absolutely no English, she never went past the third grade and she's probably never had more than a grand in her possession. I would probably be wise of me to cast of off and tell her to never call me again but I just can't seem to be able to do that. Another thing is that I know she sends money to her mother who's old and not in the best of health. It's not like she has a drug or gambling habit.

I know that this is a problem that I've created, I've been too generous over the years and she's become accustomed to having me help her out. I hate having to be an asshole over money but something obviously has to change.
 
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DubCoffman62;1945701; said:
Unfortunately she's legal at the moment but she needs to renew her residency card soon, I hear they're kind of expensive, what if she comes up a little short and I don't help her out?

See, now you're thinking!

I don't want to make a broad sweeping generalization here and get into trouble but it's been my experience that many people like her (lower class of a third world country) see others not as friends, although I believe she sincerely thinks of herself as a friend but a means to an end.

Are you sure you've never done a WestPac?
 
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DubCoffman62;1945701; said:
Most of what I has given has come out of the "fun money" that I budget for myself every week for eating out, going to the movie or buying whatever it is that I want but don't need. I've never not been able to pay a bill or go hungry because of her, I've just eaten in or not gone out for fun. If it ever came to my well being or hers she'd be SOL.


You're absolutely right, that's why I sometimes refer to her as "la sin verguenza" because I'd never have the balls to repeatedly ask someone for money the like that. One of my personality flaws is feeling guilty having it well while others are scraping to make it. I suppose it's my way of alleviating the guilt, by feeling that I helped someone. I've cut her off a few times and she's always stuck around. She always thanks me for all that I've done and says she doesn't know what she'd do without me which of course makes me feel like shit.

I guess that's kind of where I'm at too. Nobody goes hungry if I give so and so x amount of money for something. No kids, the house is paid for, I don't owe anyone any money. You could be right though, maybe I need something to change my outlook and priorities.



Unfortunately she's legal at the moment but she needs to renew her residency card soon, I hear they're kind of expensive, what if she comes up a little short and I don't help her out?


I know that this is a problem that I've created, I've been too generous over the years and she's become accustomed to having me help her out. I hate having to be an asshole over money but something obviously has to change.

Es facil. Mandamela por correo aereo y arreglare la situacion.

(for those of you who aren't swarthy, I said for him to send her to me via air-mail and I'd fix the situation)

In all seriousness, you're a good person, and you deserve to be treated better than that. The problem is-in my opinion/experience-as cultural as it is moral for her. I wouldn't be shocked if she had a skewed perception of money based on the fact that she's never had, nor really controlled any.

For that reason, the next time she asks for help, drive her to a meeting with a financial advisor. I'm sure there's some sort of service that could help her out. Even if you have to pay for that, it's a pretty sound investment, and unless she's offended by it, you've done a good thing.

If that doesn't work, te voy a dejar un mensaje con mi direccion...
 
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Crump's brother;1945760; said:
Es facil. Mandamela por correo aereo y arreglare la situacion.

(for those of you who aren't swarthy, I said for him to send her to me via air-mail and I'd fix the situation)

In all seriousness, you're a good person, and you deserve to be treated better than that. The problem is-in my opinion/experience-as cultural as it is moral for her. I wouldn't be shocked if she had a skewed perception of money based on the fact that she's never had, nor really controlled any.

For that reason, the next time she asks for help, drive her to a meeting with a financial advisor. I'm sure there's some sort of service that could help her out. Even if you have to pay for that, it's a pretty sound investment, and unless she's offended by it, you've done a good thing.

If that doesn't work, te voy a dejar un mensaje con mi direccion...
That's exactly it, she's never had a significant amount of moneyand has no idea how to take care of the little that she has. I know that she's feels obligated to send what little extra she may have from time to time to her mother in Mexico. Then when something comes up and she needs some she's SOL. That's one thing I've always respected about there culture though, when someone's in need they all chip in what they can to help out. Another one of her problems is she had a very shady Chilanga friend who has too much influence over her. For example, one time her car broke down instead of taking it to a reputable mechanic her friend sent her to su primo Jose el mecanico k no compuso nada pero le cobro un ojo de la cara. Like I said, she zero survival skills out in the world. She'd probably make someone a good wife, she cooks, she cleans and she's not bad looking at all.
Yo te dire si esta situacion no se arregla y la proxima vez que vaya para Tijuana tal vez la puedes interceptar alla in San Diego
 
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Wonder if we're pissing anyone off with the Spanish. A la verga con ellos. Por suerte, vi su foto aquicito, y por mota, no recuerdo adonde la vi...Tienes razon, es hermosa. Que vuelan Uds. a Manchester o Hartford!

I'd look into programs for recently arriving Latinos. I know that there's that sort of support around here for nutrition, there must be for finances.
 
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Crump's brother;1945773; said:
Wonder if we're [censored]ing anyone off with the Spanish. A la verga con ellos. Por suerte, vi su foto aquicito, y por mota, no recuerdo adonde la vi...Tienes razon, es hermosa. Que vuelan Uds. a Manchester o Hartford!

I'd look into programs for recently arriving Latinos. I know that there's that sort of support around here for nutrition, there must be for finances.
Chanza que hizo algo por dinero de que no me ha dicho y es por eso k tu y todo el mundo la vieron :lol:
y no entiendo lo que quieres decir por Manchester o Hartford :confused:
At any rate she's getting food stamps and is on unemployment at the moment. If she were qualified for anything else I'm sure they would've notified her at DES.
 
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