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Here is the truth about Big 10 vs SEC football.

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When you start pointing to Colin Cowherd as your source of "the truth"....well, you are a dumbass.


There is just no other way to say it.

The real question I still grapple with after my decade plus banishment to the CSA is this; are southern American's more genetically inclined to stupidity or is it a side effect of the environmental factors that give them such blinding speed?
 
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Volsboy said:
I guess you don't see the NFL drafts. The SEC has more picks than anyone year after year. The SEC has more talent from top to bottom than any conference.
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Wonderful. So then FSU must be awesome, yes? Or does it actually matter how the talent plays?
But I am not a total SEC homer. I love for our SEC opponents to lose. Especially Bama However, you need a good strength of schedule and if all your conference opponents have multiple losses it isn't good.
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No, you don't. You need to be good.

The B12 is not good.
The ACC is not good.

Conference strength matters when your team isn't good. It doesn't matter at all when you're Miami in 2001 or USC for most of the 00s. It would not have mattered for OSU if they beat UF or LSU.

Currently your team is hot garbage but you're here running your mouth because some random other SEC team did something that your team didn't do. Those of us who do not base our identity on the exploits of the teams we hate do not understand that concept. We know why you do it, but we cannot relate.


The conference is foolishly discussed because OSU looked like hot garbage for much of the year. They fielded a defense about 2x all year. They had a running game maybe 4 times (that might be high). They never stopped piling up penalties.

If they played typical Urban Meyer football (particularly defensively), they waltz straight into the playoffs.
So overall, it is bad to wish your opponents to lose most their games. So on that front, I call BS to all of you that pretend you aren't conference honks.
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There's no pretending.

1) Most people here want Michigan to be disbanded.

2) We accept the outcome of the North-South clash in the 1800s.
 
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Steve19 said:
When the SEC stops scheduling lower division teams the week before their rivalries and leaves the comfort of home to play series against B1G teams, I'll listen to the twaddle of a SEC fan.
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Here it is in a nutshell, crackerboy. Want some truth? Here ya go:

You are an ignorant hillbilly living vicariously (look it up, dumbass) through the success of others. That is the definition of pathetic. You, your school, and your entire fucking conference can kiss my motherfucking ass.

Hope I'm being clear here.
 
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Volsboy said:
I guess you don't see the NFL drafts. The SEC has more picks than anyone year after year. The SEC has more talent from top to bottom than any conference. But I am not a total SEC homer. I love for our SEC opponents to lose. Especially Bama However, you need a good strength of schedule and if all your conference opponents have multiple losses it isn't good. So overall, it is bad to wish your opponents to lose most their games. So on that front, I call BS to all of you that pretend you aren't conference honks.
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Ohio State has put plenty of not just players, but PLAYMAKERS in the draft. The only other team consistently doing that is Alabama. I don’t give a flying fuck what Purdue is putting into the draft. The only time I’m interested in a player from another team making it to the NFL and seeing what he does, is when it’s a player that chose a different team when recruited (Stefon Diggs). Aside from that, don’t fucking care.

And please, spare me with the strength of schedule bullshit. The only schedule strength the SEC has is them pillow fighting with other SEC teams. You don’t play any consistent, moderately decent non conference games. You don’t leave the confines of the South. You would rather schedule the Citadel’s, the Samford’s, the Austin Peay’s, the Chattanooga’s, the SE Louisiana’s, the Northern Colorado’s, the Charleston Southern’s of the world. The list could go on until I’m blue in the face. Your conference is propped up because of one team’s ability to carry the torch longer than anyone else, and the media blowing the entire conference BECAUSE of what Alabama has been able to accomplish.

Your terrifying conference went 5-6 in Bowl games last year, and that’s propped up (again) thanks to Alabama securing two of those five wins. So again, spare me with this dumbass talk. Maybe come back when your team actually has even 1/100th of relevance that Ohio State and Alabama have.
 
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Steve19 said:
When the SEC stops scheduling lower division teams the week before their rivalries and leaves the comfort of home to play series against B1G teams, I'll listen to the twaddle of a SEC fan.
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Funny, you are not bitching at the start of the season when the SEC is playing tough OOC games and even conference games while most other conferences are playing their cupcakes. Don't whine because the SEC schedules smarter than yours does. Until it keeps the SEC out of the Playoff why should they change? Now who is stupid?
 
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TooTallMenardo said:
Ohio State has put plenty of not just players, but PLAYMAKERS in the draft. The only other team consistently doing that is Alabama. I don’t give a flying fuck what Purdue is putting into the draft. The only time I’m interested in a player from another team making it to the NFL and seeing what he does, is when it’s a player that chose a different team when recruited (Stefon Diggs). Aside from that, don’t fucking care.

And please, spare me with the strength of schedule bullshit. The only schedule strength the SEC has is them pillow fighting with other SEC teams. You don’t play any consistent, moderately decent non conference games. You don’t leave the confines of the South. You would rather schedule the Citadel’s, the Samford’s, the Austin Peay’s, the Chattanooga’s, the SE Louisiana’s, the Northern Colorado’s, the Charleston Southern’s of the world. The list could go on until I’m blue in the face. Your conference is propped up because of one team’s ability to carry the torch longer than anyone else, and the media blowing the entire conference BECAUSE of what Alabama has been able to accomplish.

Your terrifying conference went 5-6 in Bowl games last year, and that’s propped up (again) thanks to Alabama securing two of those five wins. So again, spare me with this dumbass talk. Maybe come back when your team actually has even 1/100th of relevance that Ohio State and Alabama have.
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I don't worry about the Vols strength of schedule. It is always one of the toughest in the country.
 
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I don’t mind the conversation....

I think the SEC has dipped in recent years, despite all the Alabama titles, largely due to the coaching drop off.

Yes, the SEC has the most NFL players. They’ve got the most athletes and guys that will tear up the combine.

What the SEC has lost however, is elite level coaching. Urban left UF for OSU. Franklin left Vandy for PSU. Harbaugh landed at Michigan. Paul Cheyst has been solid. Pat Fitzgerald is a great coach. Scott Frost showed great strides at Nebraska. Jeff Brohm will continue to build Purdue.

If you had to pick a singular conference with the best coaches in America, it’s the Big 10 hands down.

Saban is the best in the country, but after him you have Kirby Smart, Ed Orgeron, Des Mason, Dan Mullen, etc. the addition of Jimbo increases their cache some, but it’s not Big 10 level.

It’s just apples and oranges, IMO.

I would be willing to concede, if you put the upper echelon Big 10 coaches in the SEC, and the coaching matched the players, it’s be far and away the best conference. For whatever reason, I think the quality of play on the SEC is not to the level of the talent.
 
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Sorry didn't mean for this thread to make me look like a douche or go off the rails. OSU is a great program and I'm just poking the bear. I will give the BS a rest. Hopefully the Vols can get back to being a decent program. We just don't have the players to compete. Hopefully Pruitt can recruit and ever more important, coach.
 
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