Heat-Mavs 2011 NBA Finals

[jimotis4heisman]

It doesn't change his offense against the 2nd best defensive team in the league.

edit: Which could have to do with the difference of LeBron as a front runner, but the Heat have the lead in the 4th quarter of every game.

i fail to comprehend what you are saying...

 

[NFBuck]

I don't watch the NBA any more....do other teams do this? All I've seen is Bosh, Wade, and now Lebron pulling this [Mark May]. Do other teams do it?

Aside from occasional youtube clips and highlights, I've watched about 3 minutes this year, but I know last year it was pretty bad league-wide. Whether the miami douche trio is worse, I don't know, but I know Wade was always amongst the worst, if not THE worst. The heat do seem to be getting the brunt of the criticism. Whether that's because they're the worst, or because everybody hates their asses, I'm not sure. I can say seeing that LeQuit clip along with Bosh's buffonery from earlier this season reinforces my decision to stop watching that crap. It's faker than rasslin'.

 

[Flocka]

i fail to comprehend what you are saying...

You talking about the Bulls offense has nothing to do with LeBron getting his points, especially in the 4th quarter against a defense better than the Mavs. He was getting his points in the lead in that series so I was not debating the the fact he isn't clutch, but pointing out they have had the lead in the 4th of every game and not been scoring with the lead or without in the 4th.

 

[Flocka]

Because LeBron is super passive-aggressive, and this was his way of telling the world, the Heat cannot win without him.

There was a tweet today from probasketballdraft that at halftime, courtside, one of LeBron's boys said he didn't like all of the backlash after game 3.

His passive-aggressive nature is to turn into a shell and watch his teammates struggle without his help. In his mind he's teaching them a lesson.

In Chicago, all anyone did was mention he was playing the best playoff series of his career. Against Dallas he is LeRobin and someone who doesn't want the ball. He's showing the world, inclusing his teammates, what it actually looks like when he gives no effort.

And he did the same thing to the Cavs in game 5 last year.

Agreed.

 

[WolverineMike]

I don't watch the NBA any more....do other teams do this? All I've seen is Bosh, Wade, and now Lebron pulling this shit. Do other teams do it?

it's rampant around the league......not just Miami.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYW7Fj1z0TI"]YouTube - ‪MUST SEE James Harden Flops On Tyson Chandler Elbow HD Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Dallas Maverick‬‏[/ame]

This was from the Western Conference Finals



and here's a nice vid from a youtube channel called "topflops"

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9U0X9VKdDY&feature=channel_video_title"]YouTube - ‪TopFlops - 5/13/11 thru 6/2/11‬‏[/ame]

 

[Mike80]

Ric Flair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LeBrick

 

[jimotis4heisman]

You talking about the Bulls offense has nothing to do with LeBron getting his points, especially in the 4th quarter against a defense better than the Mavs. He was getting his points in the lead in that series so I was not debating the the fact he isn't clutch, but pointing out they have had the lead in the 4th of every game and not been scoring with the lead or without in the 4th.

did you watch that serious, i watched it half hearted. the bulls, really are marginal, look at that lineup. is it okc, the lakers, the spurs, etc? matchup wise it is very favorable to the heat.

 

[TooTall]

You talking about the Bulls offense has nothing to do with LeBron getting his points, especially in the 4th quarter against a defense better than the Mavs. He was getting his points in the lead in that series so I was not debating the the fact he isn't clutch, but pointing out they have had the lead in the 4th of every game and not been scoring with the lead or without in the 4th.

He's proven he can be clutch in the past. It's just the mindset hurdle that he seems to never get himself over. It's like his brain shuts down and he has mental lapses on a nightly basis. Perhaps the whole Decision thing did a number on his psyche, but it's gone on since before he left Cleveland. I don't know what it is, but it's truly holding himself and my opinion back from anointing himself as a GREAT player.

/non biased post about LeBron.

Still hate the little douche for turning his back on his hometown/state. :tongue2:

 

[TooTall]

Further proof of why the Heat and the NBA is a joke.

I don't watch the NBA any more....do other teams do this? All I've seen is Bosh, Wade, and now Lebron pulling this [Mark May]. Do other teams do it?

it's rampant around the league......not just Miami.

This was from the Western Conference Finals

and here's a nice vid from a youtube channel called "topflops"

I try to stay as unbiased about it as possible (I have an obvious bias towards the Heat for obvious reasons), but I've noticed the same and it's a big reason why I stay away from watching the NBA as much as possible. Last nights Game 4 was the most I've watched in a game all season (2 1/2 quarters). Yeah there were flops, but it wasn't a disgrace, like how the series started.

 

[WolverineMike]

He's proven he can be clutch in the past. It's just the mindset hurdle that he seems to never get himself over. It's like his brain shuts down and he has mental lapses on a nightly basis. Perhaps the whole Decision thing did a number on his psyche, but it's gone on since before he left Cleveland. I don't know what it is, but it's truly holding himself and my opinion back from anointing himself as a GREAT player.

/non biased post about LeBron.

Still hate the little douche for turning his back on his hometown/state. :tongue2:

someone said on the radio yesterday that his weak mental state comes from not growing up with a father figure and wanting everyone to like him.

for one thing, if he wanted everyone in the world to like him he would have stayed in Cleveland.

second of all, well, that's it really. He does have a fragile mindset it would appear.

 

[Tlangs]

I try to stay as unbiased about it as possible (I have an obvious bias towards the Heat for obvious reasons), but I've noticed the same and it's a big reason why I stay away from watching the NBA as much as possible. Last nights Game 4 was the most I've watched in a game all season (2 1/2 quarters). Yeah there were flops, but it wasn't a disgrace, like how the series started.

At what point is it on the refs to not blow the whistle?

 

[NFBuck]

It what point is it on the refs to not blow the whistle?

When the league office cares enough to put a boot in their ass. Or starts assessing after-the-fact penalties on the players. On some of those youtube clips, commentators are lamenting what a mockery some of the players are making of the game...it's that bad.

 

[Tlangs]

When the league office cares enough to put a boot in their ass. Or starts assessing after-the-fact penalties on the players. On some of those youtube clips, commentators are lamenting what a mockery some of the players are making of the game...it's that bad.

I watched a handful of games in the regular season and a lot of playoff games. Flopping pretty much out of control...as is complaining.

What happened to the rule they put in place at the beginning of the year to curb complaining? Early in the year guys were getting T'd up like crazy. Now it is business as usual. If I was a ref, I would T up the first guy that opens his mouth to send a message.

 

[buckeyesin07]

Or starts assessing after-the-fact penalties on the players. On some of those youtube clips, commentators are lamenting what a mockery some of the players are making of the game...it's that bad.

Yeah, I think after the fact penalties is the right way to solve this problem. I simply think there is too much going on in a typical game for three officials to catch these flops. But they are absolutely ruining the game.

 

[buckeyesin07]

What happened to the rule they put in place at the beginning of the year to curb complaining? Early in the year guys were getting T'd up like crazy. Now it is business as usual. If I was a ref, I would T up the first guy that opens his mouth to send a message.

Good question. I was thinking this too when watching Game 4 the other night. Dirk got a rebound off a missed FT, and Wade was whistled for fouling Dirk on the rebound. Wade stared down the ref, smacked his hands together, and took several steps towards the ref until they were standing face to face. Not sure if Wade was saying anything because his back was to the camera. It was the ultimate in showing up the ref, and obviously wasn't the first time Wade did something like this. Not saying other players don't do this, because pretty much all of them whine, and you're right--the officials seemingly aren't enforcing that new rule. But DWade seems to get away with it more than any other player I've seen.