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Heat-Mavs 2011 NBA Finals

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buckeyesin07;1942385; said:
You are making an unfounded assumption here. Cleveland fans are nowhere near the only ones irritated with LBJ. I'm not sure why some people so quickly jump to that conclusion. I hope it's just failure to think through or consider the issue and not some childish bitterness toward Cleveland fans.
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I'd like to reiterate this point. I'm not a Cavs fan (my last NBA "team" was Detroit as a child), but the hatred for Lebron's petulance, lack of class and unfounded boasting/denigration is the reason much of america roots against Lebron now (after being the face of the league the previous few years, deserved or not).

America will often allow you to act like Deion Sanders, Michael Irvin, Bill Belichek if you win, but you BETTER back it up.
 
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buckeyegrad;1943303; said:
Just for the record:

A) I was also glad to see the Mavs win, but that has to do with my preference for Western Conference teams.

B) The "jilted bride" analogy actually came from a good friend of mine, who is a Cleveland sports fan and who is embarrassed by the way the city is celebrating LJ's failure. Then again, he was one of the few Cavs fans who three years ago was saying everything the entire fan base now says about LJ. So, he was one of the few that was glad to see him go and wasn't surprised by how he did it.

C) I live in Stow and work in Cleveland. I've seen the reaction of Cleveland fans to LJ's failure on the tv and I've had to listen to them for the last two weeks of Cleveland radio (850AM and 1100AM). There is an unhealthy obsession with LJ; there was an over-the-top celebration of the Mavs win (exemplified most by Gov. Kasich's ridiculous resolution naming the Mavs players honorary Ohioans); and there remains a lot of bitterness that comes across in radio airwaves every time I hear someone talk about LJ. A lot of the Onion's mockery of Cleveland is particularly funny because it hits pretty close to the mark of what I have been observing.

D) It's not like Cleveland sports fans don't have a long history of being bitter and delusional. One of the reasons I've been a hater since I was a boy growing up in North Central Ohio.
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Hataz gonna hate.
 
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buckeyegrad;1943303; said:
B) The "jilted bride" analogy actually came from a good friend of mine, who is a Cleveland sports fan and who is embarrassed by the way the city is celebrating LJ's failure. Then again, he was one of the few Cavs fans who three years ago was saying everything the entire fan base now says about LJ. So, he was one of the few that was glad to see him go and wasn't surprised by how he did it.
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Still don't see what the problem with rooting against someone you dislike. This isn't isolated to Cavs fans and Lebron. This is common all over the place in sports. Penguins fans did it with Marian Hossa, Blackhawks fans with Chris Chelios, Red Sox fans with Johnny Damon, lots of different people with Big Ben/the Steelers last year. This isn't Cleveland, it's just the way fans act.

D) It's not like Cleveland sports fans don't have a long history of being bitter and delusional. One of the reasons I've been a hater since I was a boy growing up in North Central Ohio.
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I don't see anything delusional about hating Lebron. Bitter? Yes, and if you don't understand why there is bitterness and hatred.. then I have nothing else to say. The hatred in Cleveland is stronger than the rest of the country because Lebron's douchiness directly affected them. He's still hated in the rest of the country though, so it's not just Cleveland being ridiculous.

Do you expect them to root for him or be neutral? You could replace any city and superstar (other than maybe Miami, lol) and the same reaction would probably happen based on long-lasting bitterness we've seen from other cities in other situations.

EDIT: Here's something I should've added.. one of my good friends is a Pistons fan and he celebrated the Heat's loss.
 
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