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RhodeIslandBuck
This guy's a real jerk
And not to be that guy, but not getting in the end zone 3 times early (2019 Clemson) was a direct result of our best offensive player (Dobbins) dropping two easy TDs and getting caught by a SLOW safety. Love JK and his injury basically hampered our O the rest of the game, but in those big moments, he did shrink a bit. That one particularly was more execution than anything.
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I think about that a lot actually and I think where I am at is this: we know at the individual game level it's always execution, we also know that the trend is present across many years and different players..so how do we reconcile those two things?
My thesis would be that it's a structural issue. It has to be or it wouldn't repeat itself like it has. So what's the issue?
I am asking here because I don't know but it makes sense that a pass first offense that wins by having an NFL system and NFL WR talent gets compressed as the field shrinks. The back of the end zone becomes the extra safety that prevents you from taking the top off the offense? I mean that's football 101 so maybe too simplistic, then again maybe it's just that damn simple.
X & O gurus would have to chime in on Day's passing offense being more vertical than say a Shanahan offense that seems to always get guys open in any part of the field? Anyway, my .02. I feel like it is some kind of structural (scheme structure/not personnel) issue or it wouldn't be as persistent as it's shown itself to be.
To answer the "just fix it if they see it" question- that's the whole point of using the word "structural" it may just be a feature, not a bug so to speak. The trade off you have to live with if you are going to have the other features.
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OHSportsFan
Fan of Ohio Sports in Indy
Fine, let’s just score from deep like the Oregon game (4 TDs 40+).
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Jagdaddy
Head Coach
IMBSO, the teams were, on average, a bit less disciplined earlier in Day’s tenure and he was less developed as a strategic game manager, which led to some critical mistakes. They also just had an above expected amount of bad luck and Southern-fried officiating as well.I think about that a lot actually and I think where I am at is this: we know at the individual game level it's always execution, we also know that the trend is present across many years and different players..so how do we reconcile those two things?
My thesis would be that it's a structural issue. It has to be or it wouldn't repeat itself like it has. So what's the issue?
I am asking here because I don't know but it makes sense that a pass first offense that wins by having an NFL system and NFL WR talent gets compressed as the field shrinks. The back of the end zone becomes the extra safety that prevents you from taking the top off the offense? I mean that's football 101 so maybe too simplistic, then again maybe it's just that damn simple.
X & O gurus would have to chime in on Day's passing offense being more vertical than say a Shanahan offense that seems to always get guys open in any part of the field? Anyway, my .02. I feel like it is some kind of structural (scheme structure/not personnel) issue or it wouldn't be as persistent as it's shown itself to be.
To answer the "just fix it if they see it" question- that's the whole point of using the word "structural" it may just be a feature, not a bug so to speak. The trade off you have to live with if you are going to have the other features.
Current issues are, I think, more schematic with too many things needing to go right for a play to work. Requiring more execution leaves more opportunity for execution errors (e.g, why make three TEs make good blocks in a tight heavy formation for a running play to work when you can run from a more spread out formation and only need one TE to make a good block?) I also think that having a special RB, and I don’t think Bo is quite there yet, can make up for a lot of that but hasn’t.
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BuckBackHome
Wolverine is largest member of weasel family
Let's hope for a repeat appearance of Evil Ryan Day!
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Well. Coach Day has a lot of work to do and it will ruffle feathers
1. he has to go outside to find a Matt Patricia OC…..not hand it to Bailey or Bowen like he would
2. he needs an OL developer….is LeCharles interested ?
3. There is no excuse to have horrible kicking….new PK and P. Malpractice actually
4. use the portal better - whiffed badly this year.
5. QB needs to be a threat to take off and get 5 yards when pocket collapses
1. he has to go outside to find a Matt Patricia OC…..not hand it to Bailey or Bowen like he would
2. he needs an OL developer….is LeCharles interested ?
3. There is no excuse to have horrible kicking….new PK and P. Malpractice actually
4. use the portal better - whiffed badly this year.
5. QB needs to be a threat to take off and get 5 yards when pocket collapses
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billmac91
Head Coach
Needs to learn how to properly use TO’s.
It’s insane he never takes a TO until AFTER the 2 minute warning.
To save max amount of time, you call TO prior to 2min warning, and hope other maxes out their plays prior to 2 min warning.
He didn’t just make this mistake in the 4th quarter, but at end of first half too. If he had used a TO right after Miami’s 3rd down play on offense, they likely punt it out of protection if how much time is on clock. Because Miami burned 40 seconds offf game clock, they were OK going on 4th down bc they knew at most, we’d push for a FG with remaining time.
Day’s clock and game management has legit been terrible throughout his tenure….its really not that difficult to get a GA or hire someone on the sideline to let him know how to maximize TO usage. I’m tired of seeing it…..
It’s insane he never takes a TO until AFTER the 2 minute warning.
To save max amount of time, you call TO prior to 2min warning, and hope other maxes out their plays prior to 2 min warning.
He didn’t just make this mistake in the 4th quarter, but at end of first half too. If he had used a TO right after Miami’s 3rd down play on offense, they likely punt it out of protection if how much time is on clock. Because Miami burned 40 seconds offf game clock, they were OK going on 4th down bc they knew at most, we’d push for a FG with remaining time.
Day’s clock and game management has legit been terrible throughout his tenure….its really not that difficult to get a GA or hire someone on the sideline to let him know how to maximize TO usage. I’m tired of seeing it…..
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MGMT
Legend
It is absolutely outrageous at times. The conclusion of the first half of the IU was some of the most inexplicable time management I’ve seen, and as you just said tonight that was brutal to sit there and say out loud “why the fuck isn’t he taking a TO”
It makes no sense. I like to think of myself as an open minded person but I cannot think of a single avenue through which someone could make sense of that sequence. It’s as if he has the mindset “ok let’s get to this 2min warning and it’s basically a time out then we will still have all of them.”
How?
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