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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

I think you’re giving too much credit to Harbaugh to maintain whatever voodoo he was able to get out of the last 2 years.

I have concerns with Day and I don’t know exactly what the OSU roster will look like…but I ain’t writing off a Loss in next year’s Game 361 days out. I just can’t believe that can simpleron can keep this up. Fuck em.
I eventually bought into this line of thinking after last year. Fool me twice and go fuck yourself. I’m off the Day bandwagon.
 
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This brings me to an existential question I was pondering this weekend during the “look what CJ said” portion of the proceedings…will the Michigan hardliners like me and so many others here eventually die off? That can be literal or figurative, but I suppose mostly literal. Will younger fans just not care about The Game that much anymore? Do they already? Will “playoff” fans replace “The Game” fans, and if so, in how long? 10 years? 20 years? Is it happening already? Maybe I’m just a dinosaur from the Cooperzoic Era (and the Earlezoic Era) and when my kind hits the assisted living, the playoff will be all that matters to the new batch of Buckeye fans. I don’t know the answer, just throwing it out there.
Yes, if we back into the playoffs and end up winning the NC it will really hurt the importance of THE GAME.

Again, last year Alabama beat Georgia 41-24 in SEC championship game. I considered that beating worse than what those fucks just gave us. But now no one cares that Georgia lost that game... Georgia is just pure and simple the "Reigning National Champion".
 
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Yes, if we back into the playoffs and end up winning the NC it will really hurt the importance of THE GAME.

Again, last year Alabama beat Georgia 41-24 in SEC championship game. I considered that beating worse than what those fucks just gave us. But now no one cares that Georgia lost that game... Georgia is just pure and simple the "Reigning National Champion".
It’s an invitational …when it goes 12 team we might have a champion. Anything subjective has weaknesses. But I wouldn’t turn down a 22 NC.
 
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Yes, if we back into the playoffs and end up winning the NC it will really hurt the importance of THE GAME.

Again, last year Alabama beat Georgia 41-24 in SEC championship game. I considered that beating worse than what those fucks just gave us. But now no one cares that Georgia lost that game... Georgia is just pure and simple the "Reigning National Champion".
That’s UGA and Bama.

I’m not sure a NC would be better than a win in The Game.

Seriously.
 
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That’s UGA and Bama.

I’m not sure a NC would be better than a win in The Game.

Seriously.

I'm not not sure it would be better, but it would salve some wounds and restore some confidence in Day. If we went through TTUN to do it, all the better.

I really don't think that would happen if the Bucks got in, but I'm willing to give it a shot rather than watching another Rose Bowl against Utah.
 
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I'm not not sure it would be better, but it would salve some wounds and restore some confidence in Day. If we went through TTUN to do it, all the better.

I really don't think would happen if the Bucks got in, but I'm willing to give it a shot rather than watching another Rose Bowl against Utah.
I’ll take any chance greater than zero. I’d also take anything with two tits, a hole and a heart beat but I’ve been drinking and I think I just mixed up my saying to live by.
 
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I'm not not sure it would be better, but it would salve some wounds and restore some confidence in Day. If we went through TTUN to do it, all the better.

I really don't think that would happen if the Bucks got in, but I'm willing to give it a shot rather than watching another Rose Bowl against Utah.
Agreed. It would prove it’s not the end of OSU football, that Day can win big games and sets a tone going into next year. And most importantly, it prevents Mich from winning the NC. Get in and go win the damn thing. I can’t root against that no matter what just happened Saturday.

Then you follow that up by righting the injustice in AA next year.
 
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Agreed. It would prove it’s not the end of OSU football, that Day can win big games and sets a tone going into next year. And most importantly, it prevents Mich from winning the NC. Get in and go win the damn thing. I can’t root against that no matter what just happened Saturday.

Then you follow that up by righting the injustice in AA next year.
Easy there Icarus. Let’s just win this NC and go from there.
 
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Outside of Larry Kehres (DIII), these are ALL of the DI coaches with a win percentage of .800 or greater (as of 2021) and have coached 10 seasons or more. There are 14 names. Of those, 4 coached all or a portion of their games before the modern era of football (1932). Of course Ryan Day hasn’t coached 10 seasons yet, but where do you think he would rank on this list? Would you guess 2nd overall and 1st amoung DI coaches?

.929 Larry Kehres† - Mount Union (1986–2012)
.881 Knute Rockne† - Notre Dame (1918–1930)
.864 Frank Leahy† - Boston College (1939–1940), Notre Dame (1941–1943, 1946–1953)
.855 Doyt Perry† - Bowling Green (1955–1964)
.853 Urban Meyer - Bowling Green (2001–2002), Utah (2003–2004), Florida (2005–2010), Ohio State (2012–2018)
.837 Barry Switzer† - Oklahoma (1973–1988) - .836 - Nebraska (1973–1997)
.833 Fielding H. Yost† - Ohio Wesleyan (1897), Nebraska (1898), Kansas (1899), Stanford (1900), San Jose State (1900), Michigan (1901–1923, 1925–1926)
.829 Robert Neyland† - Tennessee (1926–1934, 1936–1940, 1946–1952)
.826 Bud Wilkinson† - Oklahoma (1947–1963)
.812 Jock Sutherland† - Lafayette (1919–1923), Pittsburgh (1924–1938)
.806 Dabo Swinney - Clemson (2008–present)
.806 Bob Devaney† - Wyoming (1957–1961), Nebraska (1962–1972)
.806 Clarence Munn† - Albright (1935–1936), Syracuse (1946), Michigan State (1947–1953)
.804 Sid Gillman† - Miami (OH) (1944–1947), Cincinnati (1949–1954)
.800 Nick Saban - Toledo (1990), Michigan State (1995–1999), LSU (2000–2004), Alabama (2007–present)
† = College Football Hall of Fame


.894 Ryan Day - Ohio State (2019–present … not counting 3-0 as interim HC in 2018)
Those 15 coaches (not counting Ryan Day) have a combined 47 national championships. Call me back when Day wins his first....
 
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That’s UGA and Bama.

I’m not sure a NC would be better than a win in The Game.

Seriously.
In the minds (and bank accounts) of would-be 1st and 2nd round draft picks, an NC (and an expanded playoff / additional NIL income) is absolutely better.

The rivalry doesn't translate over into that group. And that's the group OSU has to appeal to in order to keep winning at an 80/90% clip.

So, to me, the more interesting question would be to ask the players on the OSU roster whether they'd make the trade-off... beat TTUN or win NC. If those two things were decoupled, I'm sure the vote wouldn't be close. It may even be entirely in the column of "win NC".

If anything, what this shows is that what the fans want, and what the players want are starting to drift apart. And that's a painful kind of separation, at least for us CFB fans.
 
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I agree the expanded playoff is a glimmer of hope but that hope quickly gets doused, at least for me, when I consider it's the same guy coaching in the playoffs that was coaching in The Game. Maybe he'll just have a mental block against tsun and avoid shitting all over himself in other games. Doubtful...but maybe.

I hope the expanded playoffs do rescue us because coaching changes are risky as hell.

I feel like we are headed toward a day (no pun intended) when we answer the existential Buckeye question: would you rather win a NC and lose The Game or beat tsun and lose in the playoff?

We have a solid chance to back into the CFP still this year and probably would stand a reasonable chance to win it. As I sit here tonight I cannot imagine winning this CFP would be good enough to outweigh the sickening feeling from losing The Game (again). I don't care about a NC to be honest. Nothing is going to get this stench off of us.
It's funny. During the Tressel and Meyer years it felt like a not insignificant amount of people would've chosen a couple of NCs in exchange for a loss to SCUM. Of course those people had no clue what losing to them felt like so they took it for granted.

Personally I'd rather lose to a .500 team by 50 every year if it ended in a SCUM asswhipping. The shitstorm called the entire 2018 season was single-handily saved by the beating OSU put on a SCUM team that thought they actually had a shot after all these years. Probably the most satisfying win of my lifetime.

I'd like to win a NC but I'd be lying if I said it wouldn’t feel hollow without a win over SCUM. A win over SCUM in the NC would right a lot of wrongs and give a little confidence back to the Buckeyes.
 
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