Greg Paulus (HC Niagara University)

[jwinslow]

First, the rule wasn't nixed, as it still appears in the official NCAA Constitution Operating Bylaws Administrative Bylaws

Division I overrides graduate transfer rule - NCAA.org

We Are the Boys: Florida Gators football - Graduate-transfer rule abandoned

The NCAA’s new graduate-transfer rule, which allowed CB Ryan Smith to join the Gators this season, has been rescinded.

> Faculty athletic rep David Goldfield from Charlotte: “I think a lot of coaches and athletic directors are very frightened. Fear drove the circumstances and won. All of us here — coaches, athletic representatives or administrators — are in the business of helping students fulfill their dreams, whether they’re academic or athletic. This override contradicts that objective.”
> UCF AD Keith Tribble: “We know there’s discussion on both sides, but our feeling is we spend an enormous amount of dollars to recruit a student-athlete to be on our campus for four years. To have him or her go somewhere else and play after our investment, we don’t really support that.”

But that heavily publicized reversal was for same sport transfers. This one is pretty unique.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

Very interesting. He'd bring a point guard mentality to an offense that was pretty much aimless last season. If he's any good at all, I think he would start this year and that would let Forcier beef up.

Odd situation.

That, my friend, is the question.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Division I overrides graduate transfer rule - NCAA.org

We Are the Boys: Florida Gators football - Graduate-transfer rule abandonedBut that heavily publicized reversal was for same sport transfers. This one is pretty unique.

Yeah, I remember that .... but, still -

One-Time Transfer Exception. A graduate student who is enrolled in a graduate or professional school of an institution other than the institution from which he or she previously received a baccalaureate degree may participate in intercollegiate athletics if the student fulfills the conditions of the one-time transfer exception set forth in Bylaw 14.5.5.2.10 and has eligibility remaining per Bylaw 14.2. (Adopted: 1/9/96 effective 8/1/96 for those student-athletes who transfer to the certifying institution on or after 8/1/96, Revised: 4/27/06, 1/6/07 effective 8/1/07)

comes straight out of the NCAA.org's rules.

Leaving me with only a couple of explanations -
1 - The rules on NCAA.org are not current
-or-
2 - I'm missing something

I think on a closer read, the critical language is the "has 2 years of eligibility remaining" in-sport. As I mentioned above, Paulus has 5 years left to play 4 years of football. Of course, because his clock started running in 2005 owing to his playing Basketball, he now does not have 5 to play 4, but 1 to play 4 (which, obviously, means 1 to play 1), in a typical case - a kid who played, say, 3 years at College X cannot then transfer to College Y as a grad student and play because he does not have 2 years of eligibility remaining in the sport (assuming the kid wants to play the same sport as he did when in undergrad (which is probably the more usual case, and would be in accord with what you've linked))

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

really, regardless of all the bylaw mumbo-jumbo...

What kind of message is this?

For all the excitement Wolverine fans have over Tate doesn't this Paulus issue pretty much say "Well, we've been through spring and we think a guy who hasn't played football in 4 years is probably better suited to lead our team on the field in 4.5 months than anyone else we've got?"

I mean, seriously.... Paulus over NS or Threet, if he was still there, I might understand (probably not), but I thought Tate was a "better thrower than Pryor" and all that....

 

[t_BuckeyeScott]

really, regardless of all the bylaw mumbo-jumbo...

What kind of message is this?

For all the excitement Wolverine fans have over Tate doesn't this Paulus issue pretty much say "Well, we've been through spring and we think a guy who hasn't played football in 4 years is probably better suited to lead our team on the field in 4.5 months than anyone else we've got?"

I mean, seriously.... Paulus over NS or Threet, if he was still there, I might understand (probably not), but I thought Tate was a "better thrower than Pryor" and all that....

The most interesting thing I see in this, once again Mili asserts the truth of a statement that is verified false.

 

[mross34]

Duke Blue Devils' Greg Paulus reportedly works out for Green Bay Packers - ESPN

Later on Tuesday, a University of Michigan official confirmed to ESPN.com's Ivan Maisel that Paulus visited the Ann Arbor campus on Tuesday.

Sources told ESPN.com's Christopher Lawlor that Paulus was there to speak to football coach Rich Rodriguez about the possibility of playing this season for the Wolverines. Paulus, who watched Michigan practice Tuesday afternoon, could fit in with Rodriguez's spread offense, the sources said.

This story might have some legs.

 

[Steve19]

The most interesting thing I see in this, once again Mili asserts the truth of a statement that is verified false.

I didn't read Mili's comment the same way. I took him to be reflecting on the TSUN fan's comments about Paulus, not the veracity of the rumor. I think we all agree with that, right?

EDIT:

I guess the rumor is verified, too. (link) Maybe I misunderstood you both?

 

[Jaxbuck]

What's your excuse going to be if UM beats osu this year? Not saying it's going to happen, but stranger things have happened in this rivalry. It doesn't matter what team is up or what team is down.

Funny, I remember this same weak ass line coming down from up north after the loss at Appy State. Not quite as sad a commentary on the state of your program as resorting to using the gator chomp but its pretty sad none the less.

 

[jwinslow]

Funny, I remember this same weak ass line coming down from up north after the loss at Appy State. Not quite as sad a commentary on the state of your program as resorting to using the gator chomp but its pretty sad none the less.

Let's try to keep Iowa as irrelevant as possible. thanks.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

The piece I truly don't understand is, having just given the last page of the Paulus thread the once over, is how he's working out for teams and such.... I mean, if Green Bay is stupid enough to sign, and more importantly, PAY, a kid who hasn't played football in 4 years then I can't see why in hell he'd go to Michigan to play for free.....

 

[Steve19]

Funny, I remember this same weak ass line coming down from up north after the loss at Appy State. Not quite as sad a commentary on the state of your program as resorting to using the gator chomp but its pretty sad none the less.

Jax, it's a matter of low probability...

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[jwinslow]

Has Paulus entered his name into the NFL draft in order to facilitate these workouts? If so, isn't he past the deadline to withdraw and stay in school? Or can he simply notify someone in the NFL that he's available without officially putting his hat in the ring?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

The most interesting thing I see in this, once again Mili asserts the truth of a statement that is verified false.

Once again I see you contributing to the board with an astounding post.

I guessed you missed jwins' post where he cited an article that nixed the test rule which had allowed graduate transfers to play immediately and not have to be subject to the "sit out one year" requirement. Now, BKB stated "But, more to the point, in the Paulus case, it doesn't matter because Paulus - a graduate of Duke (I'm assuming he has, or will graduate before attending Michigan, I can't say I know for a fact this is the case) - is NOT a transfer student.", but in the eyes of that previous rule he's a "graduate transfer", and thus subject to transfer restrictions.

After quotes of NCAA rules (which those cited may or may not be out of date) and other posts, it's still not clear whether or not Paulus can indeed play one year of football at a school immediately after playing four years of basketball at another.

Being the omnipresent Einstein that you are, why don't you enlighten us with your almighty wisdom? You really could've saved us all a lot of time and research had you simply stated your vast cosmic knowledge of all.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Considering our discussion from a few pages back....

from Steve's link:

As for a year of college football? "Im not sure the Michigan offense suits him," Casamento said. "We ran a spread, but a spread to pass. He might take some pounding in that offense. I understand Greg is keeping his options open, but I still believe basketball is his passion. When he chose basketball, he told me that one day he'd like to be a basketball coach."

At least Casamento can see the obvious re: RR's particular breed of the spread.

 

[jwinslow]

I'd find this much more enjoyable if he played 1 year as a Demon Deacon.