Greg Paulus (HC Niagara University)

[MililaniBuckeye]

Paulus can't play football...he has used up his four years of NCAA athletic eligibility. When the author said "Paulus could come in and play immediately", he meant Paulus had the talent to immediately leap into the starting role.

 

[Boilers Fan]

Paulus can't play football...he has used up his four years of NCAA athletic eligibility. When the author said "Paulus could come in and play immediately", he meant Paulus had the talent to immediately leap into the starting role.

So this is wrong? From the FoxSports article previously posted:

"The 6-foot-1 Paulus, who was the Gatorade National Player of the Year as a standout quarterback at Christian Brothers Academy in New York, has one year of eligibility left for football after playing four years of basketball at Duke."

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

So this is wrong? From the FoxSports article previously posted:

"The 6-foot-1 Paulus, who was the Gatorade National Player of the Year as a standout quarterback at Christian Brothers Academy in New York, has one year of eligibility left for football after playing four years of basketball at Duke."

If he played four years at an NCAA-member institution, he has no eligibility left. The "five to play four" is just that...five years to get your four years of playing in. I'd like to see the NCAA rule, if it exists, that allows a fifth "playing" year for a separate sport...

 

[Steve19]

Interesting that you should mention Boren.

Boren's father wore a winged helmet in high school, and did the same in college.

There was another product of that school though that you might know who serves as a better comparison than Mike Boren's son. Just as this guy, whoever he is will go from a tOSU looking uniform to an assault on all that is holy; there was a Buckeye you may've heard of who wore a winged helmet in high school.

Archie Griffin

I watched him blow up Brookhaven every year. He was every bit all that in high school.

 

[Steve19]

What's your excuse going to be if UM beats osu this year? Not saying it's going to happen, but stranger things have happened in this rivalry. It doesn't matter what team is up or what team is down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuiG78Al3yc

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Re: Paulus transfer, I don't have time at the moment, but there was a rule put in place that allowed a "graduate school" one time transfer, or some such. I'm not sure how that might or might not effect eligibility, but I would note the quick overview I did focused on eligibility for one sport... So, the rules for eligibility may be different (and I suspect they are) for a change in sports... Thus, the Paulus information is probably correct - he can play 1 year of football... and with the grad transfer rule, as I remember it, does not have to sit a year.

If I get time later, I'll try looking up the specific rules.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

What's your excuse going to be if UM beats osu this year? Not saying it's going to happen, but stranger things have happened in this rivalry. It doesn't matter what team is up or what team is down.

upsets happen all the time....but that doesn't mean it's not fucking hilarious that they're looking at Greg Paulus. Dick Rod knows he's allowed to have QBs who have experience, right? I mean.....you don't have to run all your players away and only play freshman and 5th year senior QBs who spent the last 4 years playing basketball.

 

[brutus2002]

AA is becoming a circus...its getting to the point where they are the laughing stock of college football. RR better at least make a bowl game or this situation for Michigan will be completely out of hand.

 

[wadc45]

Could Paulus take Lambeau leap from Duke? - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

DURHAM, N.C. (AP) - Now this would be quite the Lambeau leap.

A Duke spokesman said Tuesday that former point guard Greg Paulus recently worked out for the Green Bay Packers in advance of the NFL draft.

Spokesman Art Chase said Paulus threw with Blue Devils receiver Eron Riley during a workout last week on campus.

Paulus was a star high school quarterback in Syracuse, N.Y., but hasn?t taken a snap since he was a senior in 2004 and focused on basketball at Duke.

The 6-foot-1 Paulus started at point guard for three seasons before coming off the bench this year and helping the Blue Devils reach the regional semifinals for the first time since 2006.

The draft is April 25-26.

Packers spokeswoman Sarah Quick said the team does not comment on player workouts heading into the draft.

Mike and Mike were just talking about Michigan possibly being a destination for a transfer for Paulus...

 

[Brutus1]

I read he only has 1 year of football eligibility left. Why the hell would he waste it there? I realize he played the spread in high school, but why go to a big school like Michigan ? With only 1 year left, I would think he would pick a school with minimal qb competition.

Yea, I realize Michigans qb's suck or are green, but, with all things being equal, RR is going to go with the guy that will be there longer than 1 season. That, plus Paulus already missed spring ball.

 

[BigWoof31]

You guys dodged a major bullet by not signing this kid.

I can't imagine how terrible he would have been as the starting QB of a consistent Top 10 program.

 

[IronBuckI]

Could Paulus take Lambeau leap from Duke? - NFL - Yahoo! Sports



Mike and Mike were just talking about Michigan possibly being a destination for a transfer for Paulus...

Very interesting. He'd bring a point guard mentality to an offense that was pretty much aimless last season. If he's any good at all, I think he would start this year and that would let Forcier beef up.

Odd situation.

 

[jwinslow]

Re: Paulus transfer, I don't have time at the moment, but there was a rule put in place that allowed a "graduate school" one time transfer, or some such. I'm not sure how that might or might not effect eligibility, but I would note the quick overview I did focused on eligibility for one sport... So, the rules for eligibility may be different (and I suspect they are) for a change in sports... Thus, the Paulus information is probably correct - he can play 1 year of football... and with the grad transfer rule, as I remember it, does not have to sit a year.

If I get time later, I'll try looking up the specific rules.

That rule was nixed after a year. The 06 season, and a few late transfers that following offseason, was the last time it was valid.

Some are claiming that players have 5 years to play 4, and there would be no transfer penalty since he did not actually play football.

 

[NastyNatiBuck]

If he played four years at an NCAA-member institution, he has no eligibility left. The "five to play four" is just that...five years to get your four years of playing in. I'd like to see the NCAA rule, if it exists, that allows a fifth "playing" year for a separate sport...

I am pretty sure that the "five to play four" refers to a specific sport, such as basketball. He has yet to play any years of football. I do not think it means that you only get 4 years of eligibility with which you may play any sports. I think it means you have 5 years of eligibility, but you may only play any one specific sport for 4 years.

Suppose an athlete plays football and track. If he redshirts in football, but runs track in that year, would he then have just 3 years left of football? That is essentially the situation you are describing. That wouldn't make any sense, although the NCAA never ceases to amaze me.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

That rule was nixed after a year. The 06 season, and a few late transfers that following offseason, was the last time it was valid.

Some are claiming that players have 5 years to play 4, and there would be no transfer penalty since he did not actually play football.

OK, so I did a little digging....

First, the rule wasn't nixed, as it still appears in the official NCAA Constitution Operating Bylaws Administrative Bylaws

14.5.5.2.10 One-Time Transfer Exception. The student transfers to the certifying institution from another four-year collegiate institution, and all of the following conditions are met (for graduate students,see also Bylaw 14.1.9.1): (Revised: 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05, for those student-athletes who transfer to a DivisionI institution for the 2005-06 academic year and thereafter)
(a) The student is a participant in a sport other than baseball, basketball, bowl subdivision football or men?s ice hockey at the institution to which the student is transferring. A participant in championship subdivision football at the institution to which the student is transferring may use this exception only if the participant transferred to the certifying institution from an institution that sponsors bowl subdivision football and has two or more seasons of competition remaining in football or the participant transfers from a Football Championship Subdivision institution that offers athletically related financial aid in football to a Football Championship Subdivision institution that does not offer athletically related financial aid in football; (Revised: 1/16/93 effective 8/1/93, 1/11/94, 1/10/95, 11/1/00 effective 8/1/01, 4/27/06 effective 10/15/06 applicable to student-athletes who transfer on or after 10/15/06, 12/15/06, 4/27/07 effective 8/1/08 applicable to student-athletes who transfer on or after 8/1/08)

But, more to the point, in the Paulus case, it doesn't matter because Paulus - a graduate of Duke (I'm assuming he has, or will graduate before attending Michigan, I can't say I know for a fact this is the case) - is NOT a transfer student.


Thus, the analysis becomes much simpler....

14.1.8.2.1.4 Graduate Program. A student may compete while enrolled in a full-time graduate
program as defined by the institution (see Bylaw 14.1.9). (Revised: 1/9/06 effective 8/1/06).

And then the 5 to play 4 rule:

14.2 SEASONS OF COMPETITION: FIVE-YEAR RULE
A student-athlete shall not engage in more than four seasons of intercollegiate competition in any one sport (see Bylaws 14.02.6 and 14.3.2). An institution shall not permit a student-athlete to represent it in intercollegiate competition unless the individual completes all of his or her seasons of participation in all sports within the time periods specified below:

14.2.1 Five-Year Rule. A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation within five calendar years from the beginning of the semester or quarter in which the student-athlete first registered for a minimum full-time program of studies in a collegiate institution, with time spent in the armed services, on official church missions or with recognized foreign aid services of the U.S. government being excepted. For foreign students, service in the armed forces or on an official church mission of the student?s home country is considered equivalent to such service in the United States.

Technically speaking, Paulus has 4 years of eligibility remaining to play FOOTBALL because he has not used any of his football eligibility. However, because he enrolled at Duke, his "clock started running" in 2005. Which means, he must use up his Football eligibility by 2010.



As a Graduate student (and not a transfer grad student) Paulus is able to compete in any sport (other than Basketball (where he played 4 already)) so long as he does not play beyond the 5th year of his first year of play in any sport.


That is to say, everyone who ever attended college and did not play any sport retains their eligibility to play if they enroll in the future... but as soon as they start playing one sport, they have only 5 years to play 4 in every sport they wish to play.



In other words, if I go to Ohio State and I decide I want to play (and it's possible) Football, Basketball and Baseball....



My football eligibility is independently determined from my basketball eligibility and baseball eligibility, etc..