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our offense and smith are looking better but they are still not on track yet. it still just isnt clicking like its going to be there when you need it against a quality opponent. as far as defense we are alright. my only complaint is our soft zone and how we give up short pass plays all the time. in reality a team could realistically beat us just by passing for 5 yd routes the whole game. i dont think we should abandon it completely but we should mix it up more. id rather have a team make one or two big plays on us in a game rather than have them burn time and score anyways when we could give our offense more time on the field to work with.
 
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Greatest need for improvement?

Easy...

1) OC--JT is clueless about offensive football

2) A new recruiting coordinator because JT can't close

3) Better nacho chips at the 'Shoe so OH8 will quit bitchin'

4) Recruit more instate OL like Incarnato, Braxton, and Tilley. They are obviously good enough but JT and co are just clueless

5) Fox to saf..wait sorry wrong year.

6) Fire Dick Tressel because, based on Pittman's growth, he obviously cannot coach

7) Bench Ginn because his latest hot streak is only because the other teams suck

8) Quit playing a soft zone when we bring the house. Even though the 3 yard gains in the flats are frustrating, the possibility of a big play in man coverage is much more entertaining.

9) Start getting the other teams' gameplans because there is no way people should be able to come up with solid gameplans that avoid absolute and total dominance from kickoff to final horn. I mean, who the hell do these other coaches think they are, Division 1 football minds?

10) Find a damn kicker who won't constantly kick the ball in the damn endzone. I want to see some kickoff returns.

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In all seriousness, the redzone efficiency is a direct result of JT's conservative nature and refual to risk losing points. I will give the critics that one. I would like to see more creativity there.

Since I am actually critiquing for once, I would also like to see more playaction game with more intermediate and flats routes to spread the defense out. The weak ISO fake and reversal to find the TE in the flats on the strong side is unstoppable when run with consistency. That also keeps SAM honest. With backs like tOSU has, that extra step while the LB is reading could be a major difference. It seems that TS was slow on his PA reads yesterday...if I had to complain, which I will gladly pass on doing.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Doubtful. This kind of defense becomes progressively more difficult to move the ball on as the field gets shorter. What's more, OSU has been playing this way for several years now with pretty good success in the W/L column.
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and its the reason they lose the games. hence michigan state a game we were lucky to walk away with a W, minnesota which had a questionable passing offense that went all over us, and texas which passed all over us. im not saying stop the soft zone but mix it up at least and give some new looks. we run it about all the time and the opposing team knows it and uses it against us and throws the short routes. MSU destroyed us with it. we improved int he second half by tightening up and playing a little more man.

btw has anybody noticed that our d-line always does lackluster in the first half then dominates in the second? i understand they make adjustments but its rather odd.
 
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Jeffcat said:
and its the reason they lose the games. hence michigan state a game we were lucky to walk away with a W, minnesota which had a questionable passing offense that went all over us, and texas which passed all over us. im not saying stop the soft zone but mix it up at least and give some new looks. we run it about all the time and the opposing team knows it and uses it against us and throws the short routes. MSU destroyed us with it. we improved int he second half by tightening up and playing a little more man.
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Jeff, when we send as many people as Heacock likes to send, someone is left uncovered or the possible defenders are outnumbered. Each blitz leaves one area open and if the QB is good enough to make that quick read, like Stanton, that is just something you have to live with. It is truly a pick your poison situation.
 
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Jeffcat said:
and its the reason they lose the games. hence michigan state a game we were lucky to walk away with a W, minnesota which had a questionable passing offense that went all over us, and texas which passed all over us. im not saying stop the soft zone but mix it up at least and give some new looks. we run it about all the time and the opposing team knows it and uses it against us and throws the short routes. MSU destroyed us with it. we improved int he second half by tightening up and playing a little more man.

btw has anybody noticed that our d-line always does lackluster in the first half then dominates in the second? i understand they make adjustments but its rather odd.
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So, out of the three games you note, MSU, Minny and Tejas, as games that we lose owing to the bend don't break philo, we lost 1 of them. Nicely done.

A list of other games we didn't lose with the same approach:

2005 -

Miami Oh
Sandy Ego St.
Iowa
Michigan St (which you already noted)
Indiana
Minnesota (which you noted)
Illinois

2004 -

Cincy
Marshall
NCState
Indiana
Penn State
Michigan St
Michigan
Oklahoma St

2003

washington
Sandy ego state
NC State
Bowling Green
Northwestern
Iowa
Indiana
PennState
Michigan State
Purdue
Kansas St

2002
Texas Tech
Kent State
Washington St
Cincy
Indiana
Northwestern
San Jose St
Penn State
Wisky
Minny
Purdue
Illinois
Michigan
Miami, Fla

Record = 40 wins - 8 losses PCT .8333

I think I'll take that.
 
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osugrad21 said:
and the game winner aginst Texas was against Cover 2...not exactly a soft zone designed to give up the short throws.
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Also, keep in mind that the play that cost OSU the game was at least an intermediate route and not a short pass.

I also recall Minny completing jump ball passes over the top.

Damn, maybe Jeffcat is right, we should play tighter coverage at the LOS. That way, if we're going to get beat deep, we'll know about it in advance.
 
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Jeffcat said:
i credit that to sweed there. he worried me the whole game even if young wasnt a stellar passer because he stands at 6'5" and has a great vertical. sadly i listed him as an x-factor to my friends before the game started.
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So, you're saying OSU shouldn't have been in cover 2? I guess I don't understand.

If it were me, I'd have run the Mad Robber blitz from the 4-4 on nearly every play, like I do on PS2.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Also, keep in mind that the play that cost OSU the game was at least an intermediate route and not a short pass.

I also recall Minny completing jump ball passes over the top.

Damn, maybe Jeffcat is right, we should play tighter coverage at the LOS. That way, if we're going to get beat deep, we'll know about it in advance.
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not all the time but i hate seeing us get ripped up defenselessly in the first half of games and the other team can do it with ease. one of these times we are not going to come back from it. luckily we have the talent and athlets to make it through with a W in most cases but i really dislike teetering on the edge of defeat, MSU could of, texas did, minny went all over us, cinci was a dropped pass from winning, NC state took us to 3OT's. its always close. now yes you will have your close games but mix it up more. id rather see the other team score on an occasional big play than take 5 minutes off the clock and score anyways and our offense doesnt get the chance to put points up for us cause they are not on the field. not to mention the defense has a better chance of forcing TO's if we mixed it up.
 
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Now that I think about it, I think OSU has simply GOT TO STOP losing games it wins. I mean, for cryin'out loud, how many times has OSU come away with a W and not really won?

Outlandish. We should fire Tressel, trade Troy Smith for Brett Farve and bring in Joey Galloway and Terry Glenn.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
So, you're saying OSU shouldn't have been in cover 2? I guess I don't understand.

If it were me, I'd have run the Mad Robber blitz from the 4-4 on nearly every play, like I do on PS2.
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:biggrin: no im saying limas sweed had a tremendous advanatge being 6'5" and with the highest vetical on the team the coverage really didnt matter. you throw a jump vs our shorter and lower vertical leap dbs.......well you saw the end result. thats alright we are bringing our own version of james hardy next year. plus halls a BIG guy.
 
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