General Recruiting Discussion and Tangents (Merged)

[jwinslow]

Tack on another one for the Pitt PA dominance, Jared Holley, over PSU, UM, Florida.

 

[crazybuckfan40]

Honestly I would like to see PSU start getting some of these kids or before long we are going to be seeing the Big Least as a better conference than the big Ten...

Pitt, Rutgers, USF, WVU, Louisville are all putting themselves on the map as solid teams year in and year out, and most are out recruiting teams in the big ten other than tOSU, Mich, and Ill...

 

[schwab]

Penn State continues to get destroyed on the recruiting trail, with Alexander choosing Pitt last night. Only 1 of their top-11 in PA, OUCH!

Scout 2007 East Hot 100

1.....Terrelle Pryor.....QB Jeannette (Pa.)............

.....OSU, UM
4.....Brendan Beal.....SLB Bethlehem (Pa.).........

.......Florida
5.....Luke Nix............OT Jefferson Hills (Pa.) .....

.....Pittsburgh
8.....Shayne Hale......DE Monroeville (Pa.)..........

.....Pittsburgh
9.....Jonathan Baldwin.....TE Aliquippa (Pa.).......

.......Pittsburgh
13...Mike Yancich......WLB Washington (Pa.) ......

.......Penn State
16...Christian Wilson.......TEMontour (Pa.)..........

.......Michigan
18...Andrew Sweat....MLB Washington (Pa.).......

.......Ohio State
20...Chris Burns....RB New Wilmington (Pa.)......

.......Pittsburgh
26...A.J. Alexander....WR Altoona (Pa.)..............

.......Pittsburgh
31...Hubie Graham....TE West Scranton (Pa.).....

.......Illinois
32...Matt Stankiewitch....OG Schuykill Haven.....

.......Penn State
34...Mark Wedderburn....TE Springfield (Pa.).....

.......Penn State
35...Cameron Saddler.....RB Monroeville (Pa.)....

.......Pittsburgh
38...Antwuan Reed........CB Johnstown (Pa.)......

.......Pittsburgh

To be fair here, wasn't Beal just in NJ last season? Which would make PSU 1 for the top 10, and not 11, if you go by actual PA guys. And for all I know, there could be more guys like Beal on that list, and I would have no idea. So when you look closer.....ah, nope, nevermind, still lousy as hell

 

[BuckTwenty]

I'm kinda hoping PSU pulls a "Morelli" (sp?) on J.Baldwin. In my mind anyways, he's #2 in PA this year. He'd be a perfect complement the rest of their receivers and could have an A.Benn type of rookie season for the nits. Kid's a stud.

 

[MaxBuck]

If Lions don't fit, Pryor must admit it

Star quarterback should cross Penn State off list now unless he's serious about accepting scholarship offer ...

BOB FLOUNDERS: 255-8181 or [email protected]

So, let me get this straight. It is somehow an obligation for this young man to announce to the press that he is not seriously considering Penn State? Gee, I thought it was up to everyone to guess where he was headed based on all the tealeaves. I guess Flounders figures the only honest way to play poker is to turn all your cards face up.

This guy lives up to his surname, that's for sure.

 

[jwinslow]

AJ Alexander Decommits (again)

 

[t_BuckeyeScott]

who is that? does he concern OSU?

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

So, let me get this straight. It is somehow an obligation for this young man to announce to the press that he is not seriously considering Penn State? Gee, I thought it was up to everyone to guess where he was headed based on all the tealeaves. I guess Flounders figures the only honest way to play poker is to turn all your cards face up.

This guy lives up to his surname, that's for sure.

I read that when I was down in the Harrisburg area this weekend and laughed my butt off. You should see the comments in that paper from PSU fans who are absolutely clueless about anything and everything recruiting related.

 

[jwinslow]

who is that? does he concern OSU?

Not really, goes with the Pitt/PSU subtopic that we've been on above...

Wonder if RRod will target him now that Woods turned him down?

 

[shetuck]

Sporting News: Looking back on Big Ten recruiting

Looking back on Big Ten recruiting

January 25, 2008
Tom Dienhart

Time to analyze Big Ten recruiting from 2003-07.

I went back and looked at the Big Ten recruiting rankings from the last five years from Rivals.com. I averaged each school's recruiting class ranking and came up with the following rankings.

Big Ten
1. Michigan 1.4
2. Ohio State 3.0
3. Illinois 5.0
4. Penn State 5.0
5. Iowa 5.2
6. Wisconsin 6.2
7. Purdue 6.2
8. Michigan State 6.4
9. Minnesota 8.2
10. Northwestern 9.6
11. Indiana 10.2

[...]

UNDERACHIEVERS

Michigan. So much talent, so little to show for it. Big Ten titles: 2. BCS bowl wins: zero. National championships: 0. Oh, and the 2005 Wolverines finished unranked.
Illinois. The ratings are skewed by Ron Zook's recent recruiting successes. Still, there apparently was enough talent on board when he arrived for this team to be more competitive than it was (two Big Ten wins from 2003-06).
Penn State. The Nits have a Big Ten title, but they also have had two losing seasons in the last five. If talent isn't the problem, then what is? Hmmm.

[...]

BIGGEST BUST
Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State. This guy was rated the No. 1 player in the nation in 2005 coming out of Eleanor Roosevelt High in Greenbelt, Md. No doubt, Williams has been good. But there is absolutely no doubt he also has not lived up to the billing.

BIGGEST HIT Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State. The Garfield High (Akron, Ohio) product was the No. 3 player in the Class of 2006. So far, so good, as Wells has ascended to stardom and is poised for a Heisman run in 2008.

 

[xcrunner]

I believe I can safely say that's the first time I've heard Illinois referred to as being "underachievers" this year.

Definitely not the first time I've heard that about another school up north, though...

 

[mross34]

He didn't say they were underachievers this year. He said they've underachieved in the past 4 years. 9-3 one year is a start at making up for 2 Big 10 wins in 2 years, but they're not there yet.

 

[stowfan]

UM's classes finished in the top 10 nationaly ever year for the last 5 years. Some of those years they were in the top 5. How they now claim the cupboard is now bare is beyond me.

 

[SNIPER26]

UM's classes finished in the top 10 nationaly ever year for the last 5 years. Some of those years they were in the top 5. How they now claim the cupboard is now bare is beyond me.

Not all HS players translate well to the next level. Injuries, poor player development and unforseen circumstances also take a toll.

 

[Buck Kid 66]

u guys have had alot of all that.