gregorylee
I'd rather be napping!!
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Your Monicker, your Nic, the name you use....
The Sacosuds was the carry out that ralph freaking machio supposedly robbed in that flick.
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Your Monicker, your Nic, the name you use....
The Sacosuds was the carry out that ralph freaking machio supposedly robbed in that flick.
HabaneroBuck
Non-Nike Design
You could make a good argument that the crowd at the Shoe for Notre Dame in 1995 was even more jacked up for that game than during a typical Cooper-era Michigan game. Big-name opponent (they were kind of good back then with a 9-2 regular season), rare meeting, national stage....it was great...Methinks OSU-Texas circa 2005 is going to be all that, with a cherry on top (game is played at night). Atmosphere will be different than a Weasel game, but it should be legendary, to say the least. Of course, the play of Eddie and Terry Glenn didn't hurt the electricity factor!
I remember when LSU came into the Shoe back in the late 80's...the game was close at the end, and the lights had to come on for the fourth quarter...just that smidgeon of night-game was electrifying.
I remember when LSU came into the Shoe back in the late 80's...the game was close at the end, and the lights had to come on for the fourth quarter...just that smidgeon of night-game was electrifying.
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Chalumpa
We're Texas.
Sorry this thing is so damn long. So I went through some stats from last year (actually a lot of stats) and I’m curious about your home field advantage. I only looked at defensive stats because defense is what I have heard most often from posters as your great home strength. There are a few things that stood out. (the away averages don’t account for neutral sites)
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1)This is the weakest point but still worth noting… I hear that your fans will be jacked since it is going to be a night game and they’ll have had more time to drink and get rowdy. I know there is a difference between night games and <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:time Hour="15" Minute="30">3:30 pm</st1:time> games but you only had two <st1:time Hour="15" Minute="30">3:30</st1:time> games last year and you nearly lost both. Your only two late games last season happened to be your worst home games.
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2) <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> averaged 466.3 total ypg last season and your home opponents averaged 350.4 ypg. We were 116 ypg better than your home opponents last season and 60 ypg better than the best single team (Cincinnati, and they padded their stats against crappy Conference USA teams after they played y’all.) This has nothing to do with your defense really except that at home last season it didn’t see any offense as good as ours.
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3)Your opponents averaged 19.1 points per game in their away games and averaged 14.8 points per game at your house. That’s a difference of 4.3 points in your favor. After all of the rhetoric I’ve heard on this site, I was honestly surprised this stat wasn’t greater. Anyways, <st1:State>Texas</st1:State> averaged 32.8 ppg on the road last year and yet posters here say there is no way we will exceed 21 points, 32.8 - 4.3 = 28.5 points. I will concede you did well against two teams, keeping one 15 points under its road average and the other 16 under, these being <st1:City>Cincinnati</ST1:p </st1:City>and <st1:State>Indiana</st1:State>, respectively. <st1:City><ST1:pCincinnati</st1:City> and <st1:State><ST1:pIndiana</st1:State>, however, are not powerhouse teams.
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4) <st1:State><ST1:pWisconsin</st1:State> had its highest scoring road game (24 pts.) of the season at your place last year. They scored more points in the Shoe than they did at <st1:State><ST1:pArizona</st1:State> (9 pts.), Purdue (17), <ST1:p<st1:PlaceName>Michigan</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType>State</st1:PlaceType> (14), and <st1:State><ST1:pIowa</st1:State> (7). That’s against two teams with losing records and one with a 7-5 record. <st1:City><ST1:pMarshall</ST1:p</st1:City> and <st1:State>Wisconsin</st1:State> scored more in the Shoe than their away average and <ST1:p<st1:PlaceName>Penn</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType>State</st1:PlaceType> equaled their away average.
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5)At home, your close call (<st1:City><ST1:pMarshall</st1:City>) and your loss (<st1:State><ST1:pWisconsin</st1:State>) were both able to rush for more yards than their season average. You had three home games where you allowed the opposing offense to rush for more yards than their season average whereas you only allowed one team (<st1:State><ST1:pMichigan</st1:State>) to pass for more yards than their season average. I account the <st1:State><ST1:pMichigan</st1:State> bump in passing from them a) being behind most of the game and b) having the most respectable passing attack of your home opponents. So it seems like the key to beating y’all at home is having a good day rushing the ball. If you’re curious, <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> averaged 302.4 ypg rushing the ball last season (#2 in the nation.)
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I know I’m only looking at last season and that brings me to my question. What aspect of this game would you point to as the reason <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> will have a hard time against your defense?...
Do y’all expect to be significantly better on defense this season than last season? Improved against the run? Is it just home field pride? Is it because it’s a night game? Is it because we’re <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> and you’ll be extra jacked? I’m really not trying to piss people off, but last season it didn’t seem the Shoe was as imposing as y’all are saying it is going to be for <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> come September.
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By the way, if anyone has a problem with these stats I got them all from cnnsi.com.
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1)This is the weakest point but still worth noting… I hear that your fans will be jacked since it is going to be a night game and they’ll have had more time to drink and get rowdy. I know there is a difference between night games and <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:time Hour="15" Minute="30">3:30 pm</st1:time> games but you only had two <st1:time Hour="15" Minute="30">3:30</st1:time> games last year and you nearly lost both. Your only two late games last season happened to be your worst home games.
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2) <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> averaged 466.3 total ypg last season and your home opponents averaged 350.4 ypg. We were 116 ypg better than your home opponents last season and 60 ypg better than the best single team (Cincinnati, and they padded their stats against crappy Conference USA teams after they played y’all.) This has nothing to do with your defense really except that at home last season it didn’t see any offense as good as ours.
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3)Your opponents averaged 19.1 points per game in their away games and averaged 14.8 points per game at your house. That’s a difference of 4.3 points in your favor. After all of the rhetoric I’ve heard on this site, I was honestly surprised this stat wasn’t greater. Anyways, <st1:State>Texas</st1:State> averaged 32.8 ppg on the road last year and yet posters here say there is no way we will exceed 21 points, 32.8 - 4.3 = 28.5 points. I will concede you did well against two teams, keeping one 15 points under its road average and the other 16 under, these being <st1:City>Cincinnati</ST1:p </st1:City>and <st1:State>Indiana</st1:State>, respectively. <st1:City><ST1:pCincinnati</st1:City> and <st1:State><ST1:pIndiana</st1:State>, however, are not powerhouse teams.
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4) <st1:State><ST1:pWisconsin</st1:State> had its highest scoring road game (24 pts.) of the season at your place last year. They scored more points in the Shoe than they did at <st1:State><ST1:pArizona</st1:State> (9 pts.), Purdue (17), <ST1:p<st1:PlaceName>Michigan</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType>State</st1:PlaceType> (14), and <st1:State><ST1:pIowa</st1:State> (7). That’s against two teams with losing records and one with a 7-5 record. <st1:City><ST1:pMarshall</ST1:p</st1:City> and <st1:State>Wisconsin</st1:State> scored more in the Shoe than their away average and <ST1:p<st1:PlaceName>Penn</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType>State</st1:PlaceType> equaled their away average.
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5)At home, your close call (<st1:City><ST1:pMarshall</st1:City>) and your loss (<st1:State><ST1:pWisconsin</st1:State>) were both able to rush for more yards than their season average. You had three home games where you allowed the opposing offense to rush for more yards than their season average whereas you only allowed one team (<st1:State><ST1:pMichigan</st1:State>) to pass for more yards than their season average. I account the <st1:State><ST1:pMichigan</st1:State> bump in passing from them a) being behind most of the game and b) having the most respectable passing attack of your home opponents. So it seems like the key to beating y’all at home is having a good day rushing the ball. If you’re curious, <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> averaged 302.4 ypg rushing the ball last season (#2 in the nation.)
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I know I’m only looking at last season and that brings me to my question. What aspect of this game would you point to as the reason <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> will have a hard time against your defense?...
Do y’all expect to be significantly better on defense this season than last season? Improved against the run? Is it just home field pride? Is it because it’s a night game? Is it because we’re <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> and you’ll be extra jacked? I’m really not trying to piss people off, but last season it didn’t seem the Shoe was as imposing as y’all are saying it is going to be for <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> come September.
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By the way, if anyone has a problem with these stats I got them all from cnnsi.com.
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martinss01
blissfully stupid
your also looking at early season stats for a team that lost 14 guys to the NFL and had injury problems... something to think about.
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the smileys are an annoying thing that comes from : & p being next to each other.
As to why we're excited about our defense... the problem early on was the lackluster play by our DL. They matured throughout the season and were dominant by the end of the season. Our biggest problem at DB was having a suspect corner that later got benched and replaced by a shutdown corner in Youboty, as well as missing starters most of the year (we lost Fox twice to two different injuries, and also lost Salley, Whitner and other key players for long durations of time).
Our defense was healthy for the first time against UM and OkState, and look what happened against those venerable offenses.
We held one of the top offenses in the nation, MSU, in check in East Lansing. With 4 of 5 dbs hurt, we went into Purdue and gave up 3 scores in the first half, until our DC let our guys play and switched to a man-to-man and shut them out until we went back to the zone again fro the final losing drive. Then against easily one of the most revered offenses (the one that lit you guys up for 37 pts, who cares about field position you yielded that to them too) we corralled them quite well. OkState, the team that had put up big numbers a lot last year were shut out nearly all game.
Numbers don't tell the whole story.
Last year was a rebuilding year, no two ways about it. But this year, we're definitely rebuilt.
The only questionmark is who will be our edge rusher. If we can answer that question with a strong replacement, this D will rival the 02 defense which was unmatched that year.
As to why we're excited about our defense... the problem early on was the lackluster play by our DL. They matured throughout the season and were dominant by the end of the season. Our biggest problem at DB was having a suspect corner that later got benched and replaced by a shutdown corner in Youboty, as well as missing starters most of the year (we lost Fox twice to two different injuries, and also lost Salley, Whitner and other key players for long durations of time).
Our defense was healthy for the first time against UM and OkState, and look what happened against those venerable offenses.
We held one of the top offenses in the nation, MSU, in check in East Lansing. With 4 of 5 dbs hurt, we went into Purdue and gave up 3 scores in the first half, until our DC let our guys play and switched to a man-to-man and shut them out until we went back to the zone again fro the final losing drive. Then against easily one of the most revered offenses (the one that lit you guys up for 37 pts, who cares about field position you yielded that to them too) we corralled them quite well. OkState, the team that had put up big numbers a lot last year were shut out nearly all game.
Numbers don't tell the whole story.
Last year was a rebuilding year, no two ways about it. But this year, we're definitely rebuilt.
The only questionmark is who will be our edge rusher. If we can answer that question with a strong replacement, this D will rival the 02 defense which was unmatched that year.
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scooter1369
HTTR Forever.
In short, yes. We will be better than last year on defense. We are returning nine starters and six players with significant playing time under their belts. We lost Simon Fraser and Dustin Fox. Both were great players for us and will be missed, but we a plethora of talent that played behind them last year.
Adding to that, we are returning nine starters on offense. Two QB's with substantial experince in big games, a receiving corps with unlimited potential and gobs of experince. LieDown Loss is gone. We will have Pittman and Haw as our main backs. Haw redshirted last year and could very well be the starter this year.
With a more productive offense, our defense will no longer be on the field for 40 minutes a game like they have been for two years. So yeah, they'll be better.
As for the Wisconsin game, they've just had our number the last couple of years. Even when we beat them, it wasn't by much whether here or on the road.
Marshall scored 7 points on defensive strip of Lydell Ross and has no reflection on our defense.
Adding to that, we are returning nine starters on offense. Two QB's with substantial experince in big games, a receiving corps with unlimited potential and gobs of experince. LieDown Loss is gone. We will have Pittman and Haw as our main backs. Haw redshirted last year and could very well be the starter this year.
With a more productive offense, our defense will no longer be on the field for 40 minutes a game like they have been for two years. So yeah, they'll be better.
As for the Wisconsin game, they've just had our number the last couple of years. Even when we beat them, it wasn't by much whether here or on the road.
Marshall scored 7 points on defensive strip of Lydell Ross and has no reflection on our defense.
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Trying to draw comparisons between early 2004 and how we were playing at the end is problematic at best. As many have mentioned we set an NFL record for a 7 round draft and sent 14 guys to the league in '03. There were bound to be some lumps taken when replacing all that talent and experience.
What I would suggest is that we look more closely at what UT did last year and then have the UT faithful tell us why they expect to be better offensively or defensevly. You guys now have to deal with major lost talent and new coordinators etc while we took those lumps early last year and started to get very hot by years end. We lose very little compared to UT and therefore logically expect similar results as were seeing at years end.
In short one can reasonably expect a drop off from '04 for UT while reasonably expecting a slight increase or simple continuation of late '04 for OSU.
Also:
-We played 2 common opponents and beat them both in a more convincing manner than UT did
-Look how UT struggled last year against teams with even a decent scoring defense;
--Arkansas W 22-20 (they finished 5-6 with the 50th ranked scoring D)
--Mizzou W 28-20 (finished 5-6 with 23rd scoring D)
--Kansas W 27-23 (finished 4-7 with 34th scoring D)
--OU L 0-12 (finished 12-1 with 11th ranked scoring D)
--scUM W 38-37 (finished 9-3 with 42nd ranked scoring D)
-In all you guys averaged 28 ppg vs schools in the top half (59 or better) of the NCAA and a whopping 45 ppg against teams in the bottom half.
-Beating up on North Texas (65 points) Rice (35 pts) and Baylor (44 pts) while struggeling like you did with the above teams simply does not impress me.
Throw in the fact you lose Benson and tell us why you guys should expect improvement from last year. Let me guess, the super-hot shot prep phenom behind Benson was really better all along anyway right? At UT you just reloead and never skip a beat maybe? I am just dying to hear how someone rationalizes getting better after losing a talent like Benson whith a coach who has proven he cant win shit even when he has all the talent.
What I would suggest is that we look more closely at what UT did last year and then have the UT faithful tell us why they expect to be better offensively or defensevly. You guys now have to deal with major lost talent and new coordinators etc while we took those lumps early last year and started to get very hot by years end. We lose very little compared to UT and therefore logically expect similar results as were seeing at years end.
In short one can reasonably expect a drop off from '04 for UT while reasonably expecting a slight increase or simple continuation of late '04 for OSU.
Also:
-We played 2 common opponents and beat them both in a more convincing manner than UT did
-Look how UT struggled last year against teams with even a decent scoring defense;
--Arkansas W 22-20 (they finished 5-6 with the 50th ranked scoring D)
--Mizzou W 28-20 (finished 5-6 with 23rd scoring D)
--Kansas W 27-23 (finished 4-7 with 34th scoring D)
--OU L 0-12 (finished 12-1 with 11th ranked scoring D)
--scUM W 38-37 (finished 9-3 with 42nd ranked scoring D)
-In all you guys averaged 28 ppg vs schools in the top half (59 or better) of the NCAA and a whopping 45 ppg against teams in the bottom half.
-Beating up on North Texas (65 points) Rice (35 pts) and Baylor (44 pts) while struggeling like you did with the above teams simply does not impress me.
Throw in the fact you lose Benson and tell us why you guys should expect improvement from last year. Let me guess, the super-hot shot prep phenom behind Benson was really better all along anyway right? At UT you just reloead and never skip a beat maybe? I am just dying to hear how someone rationalizes getting better after losing a talent like Benson whith a coach who has proven he cant win shit even when he has all the talent.
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HorninFortWorth
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Hmm. Well without getting really detailed for starters I like what UT returns in the trenches on both sides of the ball. 4 of 5 starters are back on the o-line and the non returning starter has experience at center and should do fine. Everyone returns on the d-line and the Horns get back 03 starting defensive end Mike Williams who was ineligible last year. Williams really needs to help the Horns with their pass rush. Obviously that is a good place to start.Jaxbuck said:
The receiving core was incredibly green last season due to what the Horns had to replace there from 03 including Roy Williams. I would be surprised with them gaining experience along with another year of playing with Vince if the passing game doesn't improve. Plus David Thomas is back at tight end and that guy is a horse. As I have alluded to way back in this thread I feel running back is a question mark and a legit concern at this time. However, if Selvin Young takes care of everything he needs to in the next few months with being healthy and ready grade wise then he will be a solid replacement for Benson come the fall. This is his 4th season down there. Plus, Vince was a freaking sophmore last season. He could improve himself I would assume.
Anyway, just can't wait for the game. I do think you may be underestimating what UT returns a tad. I for one feel like this should be Mack's best team out of his 8 years but we shall see. Everyone thinks their team is going to be the shit in March.
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High Lonesome
Hook 'Em
" We lose very little compared to UT and therefore logically expect similar results as were seeing at years end."
Im not sure what ya'll lost. I know that it cannot be as much as after '03 but here is what UT lost,
Starters,
Jason Glynn-center
Cedric Benson- running back
Bo Scaife-Tight End
Tony Jeffries- Wide Reciever
Derick Johnson- Linebacker
Philip Geiger-Saftey
The rest of the 16 starters will be back:
Our offensive will arguably be the best in the country(their experience cannot be debated) Two of them are on the list of potential lombardi winners, Johnathan scott and Justin Blalock, http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/pages/releases/2004_05/009/032905_30.html
the receiving corp will have a years expeirience and add two potential gamebreakers in Quan Crosby and Jordan Shipley
Running back is a concern but we have a plethora of people to choose from, not the least of which is selvin young, who pushed benson for the starting job 2 years ago(he didnt get it because he was not as good as benson, but not many people were)
Scaffe will be missed because he allowed us to use two tight ends and balanced formations, but not many people have a tight end like David Thomas(returning all big 12 player)
Our defensive line is everybit as stacked at the offensive line, and led by another lombardi watch list guy, Rodrique Wright(potential 1st rounder in 05 draft had he declared) we also go two deep all the way down it. This should be the strength of our defense.
linebackers, obviously we lose DJ and that hurts, But Aaron Harris was perhaps the most overlooked player on our team last year because of what DJ did. Harris by the way had a much better Rose bowl. Our weakest link here is eric hall but i he may not even start so i guess we'll see. Rashad Babino is a guy to look out for as a replacement. He is a dat ngyen style player, undersized but has made plays everywhere he went. Coaching staff is really high on him
I will post more on secondary and sp teams later, need to get some work done
Im not sure what ya'll lost. I know that it cannot be as much as after '03 but here is what UT lost,
Starters,
Jason Glynn-center
Cedric Benson- running back
Bo Scaife-Tight End
Tony Jeffries- Wide Reciever
Derick Johnson- Linebacker
Philip Geiger-Saftey
The rest of the 16 starters will be back:
Our offensive will arguably be the best in the country(their experience cannot be debated) Two of them are on the list of potential lombardi winners, Johnathan scott and Justin Blalock, http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/pages/releases/2004_05/009/032905_30.html
the receiving corp will have a years expeirience and add two potential gamebreakers in Quan Crosby and Jordan Shipley
Running back is a concern but we have a plethora of people to choose from, not the least of which is selvin young, who pushed benson for the starting job 2 years ago(he didnt get it because he was not as good as benson, but not many people were)
Scaffe will be missed because he allowed us to use two tight ends and balanced formations, but not many people have a tight end like David Thomas(returning all big 12 player)
Our defensive line is everybit as stacked at the offensive line, and led by another lombardi watch list guy, Rodrique Wright(potential 1st rounder in 05 draft had he declared) we also go two deep all the way down it. This should be the strength of our defense.
linebackers, obviously we lose DJ and that hurts, But Aaron Harris was perhaps the most overlooked player on our team last year because of what DJ did. Harris by the way had a much better Rose bowl. Our weakest link here is eric hall but i he may not even start so i guess we'll see. Rashad Babino is a guy to look out for as a replacement. He is a dat ngyen style player, undersized but has made plays everywhere he went. Coaching staff is really high on him
I will post more on secondary and sp teams later, need to get some work done
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Texas fans, understand that you're gonna get a mixed set of posts... some from intelligent posters that are friendly, some from intelligent posters that are talking smack, etc.
Here at BP we don't mind varying opinions (as long as people don't propose changing our uniforms, those conversations are left over at bucknuts)... we just want you to back them up with reasons or facts. You guys have done a good job doing so thus far.
That being said, you're still going down next september :osu4:
Here at BP we don't mind varying opinions (as long as people don't propose changing our uniforms, those conversations are left over at bucknuts)... we just want you to back them up with reasons or facts. You guys have done a good job doing so thus far.
That being said, you're still going down next september :osu4:
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gregorylee
I'd rather be napping!!
You asked...
Brandon Joe FB
Mike Kne walkon turned scholly OT
Simon Fraser DE
Lydell Ross/Maurice Hall RB
Dustin Fox CB
Mike Nugent K
If I missed someone I am sure someone else will let me know, but that is pretty much it. Honestly I did miss someone, who has been key the last few yrs
Kyle Andrews LS
Oh, and the punter... but we should be alright there.
--GL
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Brandon Joe FB
- Semi-replaceable, Haw/Pittman/Wells have a lot more potential, but we don't have a bruising back like him next year
Mike Kne walkon turned scholly OT
- Highly replaceable, we have a stable full of experienced lineman and good subs to fill their spots in case of injury
Simon Fraser DE
- Hard to replace, he played many years and was a solid player... this is our biggest questionmark going into next year
Lydell Ross/Maurice Hall RB
- Easy to replace, neither were consistently effective, Haw should be able to handle the inside carries as well as the flashy pittman, an Wells will create matchup problems in spread formations
Dustin Fox CB
- Somewhat easy to replace, he started for 3 years, but with all of the injuries last year our backups got a lot of experience. Everett/Whitner will do fine here.
Mike Nugent K
- Impossible to replace, but we'll be fine. Huston is a 6th year guy that nugent felt was easily an all-conference if not better talent at K. He can boom kicks out of the endzone like Nuge, and is a pretty accurate kicker too. But there's no way we're gonna replace a guy that had a good shot at a FG from 60 yards.
Kyle Andrews LS
- hard to replace in terms of consistency, but we have a lot of good snappers at a school like tOSU (any good school does)
Turano P
- he was solid, but not without flaws (unlike our two punters who led the nation, Groom and Sander). Our kick scrimmage, invented by Tressel, should be exciting this year to see everyone duke it out. :) We have a pretty good one in Trapasso (we have to give away the most kicking schollies, but I've come to learn that is a good thing), and others if he can't cut it.
- Semi-replaceable, Haw/Pittman/Wells have a lot more potential, but we don't have a bruising back like him next year
Mike Kne walkon turned scholly OT
- Highly replaceable, we have a stable full of experienced lineman and good subs to fill their spots in case of injury
Simon Fraser DE
- Hard to replace, he played many years and was a solid player... this is our biggest questionmark going into next year
Lydell Ross/Maurice Hall RB
- Easy to replace, neither were consistently effective, Haw should be able to handle the inside carries as well as the flashy pittman, an Wells will create matchup problems in spread formations
Dustin Fox CB
- Somewhat easy to replace, he started for 3 years, but with all of the injuries last year our backups got a lot of experience. Everett/Whitner will do fine here.
Mike Nugent K
- Impossible to replace, but we'll be fine. Huston is a 6th year guy that nugent felt was easily an all-conference if not better talent at K. He can boom kicks out of the endzone like Nuge, and is a pretty accurate kicker too. But there's no way we're gonna replace a guy that had a good shot at a FG from 60 yards.
Kyle Andrews LS
- hard to replace in terms of consistency, but we have a lot of good snappers at a school like tOSU (any good school does)
Turano P
- he was solid, but not without flaws (unlike our two punters who led the nation, Groom and Sander). Our kick scrimmage, invented by Tressel, should be exciting this year to see everyone duke it out. :) We have a pretty good one in Trapasso (we have to give away the most kicking schollies, but I've come to learn that is a good thing), and others if he can't cut it.
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I'm in late on this topic, so if it has been addressed, I apolgize.
I don't think anyone in their right mind would say Texas can't compete with OSU in terms of talent. Texas has loads of it. While we can go back and forth about who's personnel is better, it's really just a battle of partisianship that gets us nowhere. What I'm gonna look at is stats.
Huge is the loss of Cedric Benson... the comment that UT will be among the best O's in the country is inane - as HIGHLY speculative. Yeah, you'll have a solid line. You return zero playmakers (VY aside). Do you have talent to replace those losses? Sure. It's all potential, however, and far from proven.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>RUSHING</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align="right">G</td>--><TD align=right>Att</TD><TD align=right>Yds</TD><TD align=right>Avg</TD><TD align=right>TD</TD><!--<td align="right">Yd/G</td>--></TR><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>Cedric Benson</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>326</TD><TD align=right>1,834</TD><TD align=right>5.6</TD><TD align=right>19</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Projected Starter:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>Selvin Young</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>12</TD><TD align=right>102</TD><TD align=right>8.5</TD><TD align=right>2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Passing
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>RECEIVING</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align="right">G</td>--><TD align=right>Rec</TD><TD align=right>Yds</TD><TD align=right>Avg</TD><TD align=right>TD</TD><!--<td align="right">Yd/G</td>--></TR><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>Tony Jeffery</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>437</TD><TD align=right>13.2</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><!--<td align=right>0.0</td>--></TR><TR><TD>Bo Scaife</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>26</TD><TD align=right>348</TD><TD align=right>13.4</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><!--<td align=right>0.0</td>--></TR><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>Limas Sweed</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>23</TD><TD align=right>263</TD><TD align=right>11.4</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><!--<td align=right>0.0</td>--></TR><TR><TD>Cedric Benson</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>22</TD><TD align=right>179</TD><TD align=right>8.1</TD><TD align=right>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Last year, UT's Offensive production:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>NET YARDS <TD align=middle width=40>Plays</TD><TD align=middle width=40>Rush</TD><TD align=middle width=40>Pass</TD><TD align=middle width=40>Tot</TD><TD align=middle width=40>Avg</TD></TR><TR><TD>Team </TD><TD align=middle>901</TD><TD align=middle>3,590</TD><TD align=middle>1,983</TD><TD align=middle>5,573 <TD align=middle>6.2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
UT lost nearly 2 thirds of it's rushing production and replaces that loss with a guy who had 12 carries and you guys are singing the praises? Seems a bit over the top. I'm all for optomism, but the wiser approach may be to temper that with some honest review of what left and what's returning. Young pushed Benson? 326 to 12 in terms of attempts tells a very different story.
UT's passing game is obviously not the key to your offense. No less, you lose 3 of your top 4 guys in terms of receptions and yards. That's about half of your passing offense... gone. I have a hard time believing UT is going to get better having lost these guys.
Vince Young is an unquestioned talent. Can he do it all by himself? I doubt it. I know you guys are probably all thrilled with the way UT handled Michigan and all, but round here, we all know well how Michigan's D struggled against the mobile QB. Like I said, not taking anything away from Young, but Michigan surely isn't the measuring stick you want to use.
I was going to write about how your Defense is not that great, but the stats I saw are better than I expected.
I don't think anyone in their right mind would say Texas can't compete with OSU in terms of talent. Texas has loads of it. While we can go back and forth about who's personnel is better, it's really just a battle of partisianship that gets us nowhere. What I'm gonna look at is stats.
Huge is the loss of Cedric Benson... the comment that UT will be among the best O's in the country is inane - as HIGHLY speculative. Yeah, you'll have a solid line. You return zero playmakers (VY aside). Do you have talent to replace those losses? Sure. It's all potential, however, and far from proven.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>RUSHING</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align="right">G</td>--><TD align=right>Att</TD><TD align=right>Yds</TD><TD align=right>Avg</TD><TD align=right>TD</TD><!--<td align="right">Yd/G</td>--></TR><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>Cedric Benson</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>326</TD><TD align=right>1,834</TD><TD align=right>5.6</TD><TD align=right>19</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Projected Starter:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>Selvin Young</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>12</TD><TD align=right>102</TD><TD align=right>8.5</TD><TD align=right>2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Passing
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>RECEIVING</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align="right">G</td>--><TD align=right>Rec</TD><TD align=right>Yds</TD><TD align=right>Avg</TD><TD align=right>TD</TD><!--<td align="right">Yd/G</td>--></TR><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>Tony Jeffery</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>437</TD><TD align=right>13.2</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><!--<td align=right>0.0</td>--></TR><TR><TD>Bo Scaife</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>26</TD><TD align=right>348</TD><TD align=right>13.4</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><!--<td align=right>0.0</td>--></TR><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>Limas Sweed</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>23</TD><TD align=right>263</TD><TD align=right>11.4</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><!--<td align=right>0.0</td>--></TR><TR><TD>Cedric Benson</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>22</TD><TD align=right>179</TD><TD align=right>8.1</TD><TD align=right>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Last year, UT's Offensive production:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>NET YARDS <TD align=middle width=40>Plays</TD><TD align=middle width=40>Rush</TD><TD align=middle width=40>Pass</TD><TD align=middle width=40>Tot</TD><TD align=middle width=40>Avg</TD></TR><TR><TD>Team </TD><TD align=middle>901</TD><TD align=middle>3,590</TD><TD align=middle>1,983</TD><TD align=middle>5,573 <TD align=middle>6.2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
UT lost nearly 2 thirds of it's rushing production and replaces that loss with a guy who had 12 carries and you guys are singing the praises? Seems a bit over the top. I'm all for optomism, but the wiser approach may be to temper that with some honest review of what left and what's returning. Young pushed Benson? 326 to 12 in terms of attempts tells a very different story.
UT's passing game is obviously not the key to your offense. No less, you lose 3 of your top 4 guys in terms of receptions and yards. That's about half of your passing offense... gone. I have a hard time believing UT is going to get better having lost these guys.
Vince Young is an unquestioned talent. Can he do it all by himself? I doubt it. I know you guys are probably all thrilled with the way UT handled Michigan and all, but round here, we all know well how Michigan's D struggled against the mobile QB. Like I said, not taking anything away from Young, but Michigan surely isn't the measuring stick you want to use.
I was going to write about how your Defense is not that great, but the stats I saw are better than I expected.
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tsteele316
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this problem is amplified by the fact that selvin young isnt even attending UT at the moment. he will probably get eligible for fall, but missing all spring and summer doesnt help, especially since i believe he's returning from an injury of some sort.
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