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Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

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EngineerHorn said:
Damn, I thought I had the Buckeye starters memorized. Apparently not.


Hawk at WLB
Carpenter at SLB
Salley at FS

Got it.

Random boring off season question: What is the official criteria for getting the buckeye helmet stickers?
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Excellent play, team leadership ..

and beating sCUM.

BTW, did you good folks from Texas see this assessment of the UT scrimmage - comes from a Sooner board.
 
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CleveBucks said:
Why would Texas play the opening kickoff of a scrimmage with the 3rd or 4th scout kickoff coverage team? The 1st team needs enough work as it is.
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The theory offered is that Mack Brown likes to make the locals in Austin feel good by giving them a spectactular return for TD at the start of these scrimmage games.
 
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EngineerHorn said:
Random boring off season question: What is the official criteria for getting the buckeye helmet stickers?
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“The Buckeye Leaf Award System� straight from the Buckeye Bible “The Ohio State Winner’s Manual�.

I. TEAM

1. WIN – every team member will receive a Buckeye Leaf after a victory
2. BIG TEN – every team member will receive an additional buckeye leaf for a Big Ten win.
3. WIN T.O. MARGIN – every team member will receive a Buckeye Leaf
4. WINNING PERFORMANCE – each individual that meets the film grade standard as set by the staff receives a Buckeye Leaf

OFFENSIVE LINEMAN – 80%
DEDENSIVE LINEMEN – 80%
TAILBACK/WIDE RECEIVER - 90%
FULLBACK 85%
LINEBACKERS 85%
DEFENSIVE BACK 90%
QUARTERBACK 85%

5. BIG PLAY IN FOOTBALL GAME – as designated by coach Tressel


II. SPECIAL UNITS

Kick-Off Team

Result inside 25-yard line everytime
No Penalties
No Missed Tackles
11 Hustling in Proper Lanes
--------------------------------------------------------- Team – One Buckeye Leaf

Recover Onside Kick – Team – One Buckeye Leaf
Cause Fumble and Recovery – Individual – One Buckeye Leaf
Tackle Inside 20 yard line – Individual – One Buckeye Leaf


PUNT TEAM GOALS

Net Punt 35 Yards
No Rushed or Blocked Punts
No Penalties
No Missed Tackles
11 Hustling in Proper Lanes
-----------------------------------------------------------Team – One Buckeye Leaf

Successful Fake Punt for 1st Down – Team – One Buckeye Leaf
Down Punt Inside 10 Yard Line – Team – One Buckeye Leaf
Cause Fumble Recovery – Individual – One Buckeye Leaf


Kick-Off Return Team

All Returnable Kicks past 25-yard line
No Fumbles
No Penalties
Never Lose an Onside Kick
---------------------------------------------------Team – One Buckeye Leaf

Kick-Off Returned past 40-yard line – Team – One Buckeye Leaf



Rangers

Average 5 yards or more per return
Catch in Air all catchable punts
No Fumbles
No Penalties
---------------------------------------------------Team – One Buckeye Leaf

Punt Return over 20 yard – Team – One Buckeye Leaf
Block or force a poor punt – Team – One Buckeye Leaf


Field Goal / Extra Point Team

100% PAT Success
80% FG Success
No Penalties
100% Mechanics
No rushed or blocked kicks or penetration
-----------------------------------------------------Team – One Buckeye Leaf

Successful fake punt attempt – Team – One Buckeye Leaf
45+ yard Field Goal – Individual – One Buckeye Leaf


Field Goal / Extra Block Team

Blocked attempt or pressure forcing miss – Team – One Buckeye Leaf
Preventing Fake Attempt – Team – One Buckeye Leaf
Score – Team – One Buckeye Leaf


III. DEFENSE – in each category if criteria is met, the entire defensive unit that played significantly will receive an award.

1. Hold opponents to 13 points or less as long as that is sufficient for an Ohio State victory.
2. Defensive Score
3. Five “3 and outs�
4. Stop opponent inside their own 19-yard line so that Ohio State obtains the ball in “plus territory�
5. Stop opponent in all two-minute situations.
6. Stop Opponent in all sudden change situations
7. Force three (3) turnovers

IV. OFFENSE – in each category, if criteria is met, the entire offensive unit that played significantly will receive an award.

1. Score 24 points (when it is sufficient for an Ohio State victory)
2. No turnovers and all possession changes must occur across the 50 yardline so that our opponent begins their drive with more than 50 yards to go.
3. Ten plays of 12+ yards.
4. Convert all short yardage situations.
5. Four drives of 8 + plays.
6. 54% first down consistency.
 
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"2. No turnovers and all possession changes must occur across the 50 yardline so that our opponent begins their drive with more than 50 yards to go."

Think Tressel added that one in personally? I remember a while back, Mili, you found a Winner's Manual from the Cooper era and there were some differences from the one you found today as far as getting buckeyes went - very interesting way to compare the two coaches if I remember correctly, and the differences were quite obvious.
 
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scarletngrey77 said:
can anyone confirm the fact that there starting kicker can boom the ball into the endzone?

that would really hurt our special teams
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Yes, he's been doing that. Thats one of the few things we seem to be consistently doing. This is only from what I read though, as I don't live in Austin. We are doing things well, just not consitently. But it is better than the opening of fall camp.

If I had to pick my poison, I'd much rather have our ST that need tweeking than a QB who is having a problem with throwing INT's, bad decisions, etc.
 
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hookemhorns2004 said:
Yes, he's been doing that. Thats one of the few things we seem to be consistently doing. This is only from what I read though, as I don't live in Austin. We are doing things well, just not consitently. But it is better than the opening of fall camp.

If I had to pick my poison, I'd much rather have our ST that need tweeking than a QB who is having a problem with throwing INT's, bad decisions, etc.
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Um, I've been reading a lot of reports that say he can sometimes get it to the endzone, but it only matters if its deep in the endzone preventing a return. Your other kickers definitely haven't been doing it, but the reports have seemed to state that many of the kickoffs don't make it past the five. Maybe that was evaluating everyone, who knows.

BTW, it is blatantly obvious that Mack Brown is a moron when it comes to special teams. He apparently hasn't had full contact many times in previous years (an InsideTexas article said how full contact on kickoffs in practice was a new thing last year)...

And now we learn that they don't have their best coverage guys in there, despite looking like high schoolers against Michigan and apparently also struggling with punt coverage as well in practice.

Bring it on mack. Its clear that you haven't made it a priority to get good punters, kickers, or even bother to spend enough time on coverage units (especially kickoffs). We can't wait to introduce you to Jim Tressel, who says the most important play in football is the punt. We have many kickers who can boom 50 yarders, as well as solid punters, and then have two guys named Ginn and Holmes.

Guess what? There's no way you're gonna have the offensive firepower that Michigan has had for the last 4 years (not that early on without a single WR that has emerged as a goto guy). And all the offense in the world didn't beat us (the one year they played good D and ST they beat us).

Your special teams ineptitude has not changed. And it will win the game for Tressel, just like it always has.

Brown has spent so much time beating up on Baylor and other schools that could never win a Big 12 title, that he has rarely needed special teams. But huge punts by Andy Groom, rock solid FGs by nugent, and good field positions from returns are why we beat Miami as much as our O & D.
 
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