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Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

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Oh no! Brown has sold out xray's loyalty to defensive yards allowed
By the numbers

320.1: Number of yards, on average, the defense allowed a season ago. Brown said this week that it's the least telling statistic kept on defenses.
Another very telling quote from mack:
"We just need to have more consistent play from each one of them because they all have ability," Brown said. "One will look great one day and come back the next day and drop two balls. We’re looking for consistency at a high level."
Same story with the kickers who look great one day and then not the next. Texas' special teams sound worse with each update.
"Greg Johnson is kicking off really well with Richmond, so that’s a fight right now. Greg’s punting well. He’s doing much better. We’re excited where Greg is headed, but we still haven’t decided on a field goal kicker."
 
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hookemhorns2004 said:
Shipley has a minor hamstring injury. He should play for game 1. MRI showed the center of the muscle was hurt, which is better than either of the ends.

What's the latest on Zwick's rolled ankel? who would start game 1?
Zwick is day to day. If not Zwick then Boeckman would start. He's been in the system for three year's now even though he has four years of elegibility left (gray shirt and then redshirt). He should be very capable if Zwick is unable to go. In fact some think that he should start even if Zwick is 100%.
 
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High Lonesome said:
No the guy that is going to take his place is an undersized kid named Rashad Babino, He either RS last year or was a rs freshman. Regardless, He is a sam mills type, undersized but just seems to make plays. He always did in highschool and according to all the practice reports I have heard, he is doing the same in Austin.


Note: I am not saying he will be as good as sam mills(see RB vs RT) just saying that is the type of player he is
Yes, Babino is badass, and really raising eyebrows.

About the secondary...

LONGHORNS FOOTBALL
Huff is the bell cow for Longhorns secondary
Texas isn't worried with its secondary, with five of its six defensive backs on the field from last fall.
By Suzanne Halliburton

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Wednesday, August 17, 2005

Michael Huff never gave the NFL draft much consideration after the Texas team scattered following its Rose Bowl victory on Jan. 1. The Longhorns safety heard that he possibly could have been a late first-round selection and surely no worse than a third-round pick if he had given up his final year of eligibility.

But coming off an All-Big 12 Conference season, Huff wanted to stick around for his senior year. He even tried his legs at track, running the first leg on the Longhorns' 400-meter relay that qualified for the NCAA outdoor championships.

Now, the fifth-year senior is an anchor of the Texas secondary that's thought to be the deepest in quality since Mack Brown took over as coach of the Longhorns before the 1998 season.

"We've got some depth now," said Duane Akina, Texas' co-defensive coordinator who is in charge of the secondary.

Including Huff, who is going into his fourth year as the starting strong safety, the Longhorns return five of their top six defensive backs from a year ago. The only question Akina needs to answer is who will be his sixth defensive back on long-yardage plays.

Akina said Huff is one of the top three defensive backs he's coached, putting him in the category of former Longhorn All-American Quentin Jammer, a first-round NFL draft pick in 2002, and Arizona's Chris McAlister, also a first-round pick who made the Pro Bowl roster last fall.

Akina said he's most impressed with Huff's ability to see a play on video or on the field and immediately recognize how to defend it.

"He does not need a lot of physical reps," Akina said. "You can throw it up on the chalkboard and he does it. A lot of guys need reps, reps, reps to get it down."

Joining Huff at safety is junior Michael Griffin, Huff's roommate who saw the field when Texas was in its nickel package last fall. He'll step in for departed senior Phillip Geiggar, the only starter lost. And as was the case last year, Aaron Ross and Tarell Brown will split series at one cornerback spot, while fifth-year senior Cedric Griffin, also going into his fourth year as a starter, holds down the other side of the field.

It starts with Huff, the do-it-all defensive back.

When Texas takes the field Sept. 3 against Louisiana-Lafayette, Huff will play strong safety in some situations, meaning he'll set up closer to the line of scrimmage with more run responsibilities. Or he'll switch with Griffin and play free safety, dropping back to guard against the deep pass.

There was speculation in the spring that Huff, who is listed as the fourth-best safety in the country by The Sporting News, might move to cornerback full time this fall. Last year during obvious passing downs, Huff switched to nickel back and covered the receiver in the slot, typically the offense's first option on the play. He stayed at this spot against Oklahoma last October, making 18 tackles while limiting Sooner All-America receiver Mark Clayton to three catches for 19 yards.

But Brown didn't want to lose Huff's on-field savvy.

"The guy has the ability to play both positions," Brown said. "But our safeties are our quarterbacks."

Just about all coverages will run through Huff, who has added 35 pounds since he came to Texas from Irving Nimitz High School with the reputation of a speedster who didn't necessarily seek contact.

"Back in high school, I never had to hit anything," said Huff, whose 73 tackles in 2004 were fourth-best on the team.

Texas, under new defensive coordinator Gene Chizik, likely will rely as much or more on zones and blitzes off those formations that were installed a year ago. The Longhorns were 60-40 zone versus man-to-man pass coverage in 2004.

"I think we'll get more picks and blowups this year," Cedric Griffin said. "We'll be a lot more aggressive and a lot more reactive."

Huff has six career interceptions, four of which he returned for touchdowns.

It seems that another year of seasoning is the only thing needed to tweak his NFL readiness. He already has the size — four of the six defensive backs drafted in the first round in April weighed 200 pounds or more. The leg on the Texas relay team attests to his speed. And he has the strength, lifting 225 pounds 20 times in a drill the scouts use to test brawn.

But he figured it all can wait.

"I wanted to get my degree," he said Tuesday. "I want to win a national championship. And as long as Coach Akina is here, I'm going to stay."

Buckeye86 said:
Zwick is day to day. If not Zwick then Boeckman would start. He's been in the system for three year's now even though he has four years of elegibility left (gray shirt and then redshirt). He should be very capable if Zwick is unable to go. In fact some think that he should start even if Zwick is 100%.
As a buckeye, would you rahter have Zwick or Boeckman start for game 1?
 
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All I know is that Texas' biggest weakness going into this game was their special teams. Longhorn fans had claimed they were good at punt coverage, yet the punters have been shaky and two different guys have run back punts. The kickoff coverage was obviously already an issue, and I'm not convinced that its going to change enough to stop Ginn/Holmes.

All the talk is about OSU losing their kicker/punter, yet our replacements are on scholarship (and both have been excellent in practice) vs. Texas just signed their first player to kick a ball last year (making him a true frosh if he were to play).

It's blatantly obvious which team values special teams more. If the result of working on it all spring involves shaky punting, shaky kicking, and still having coverage issues... then I see no reason why that isn't still a huge advantage for OSU.
 
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Buckeye86 said:
I was talking about when he first came to Ohio State and predicted a win. Wise ass. :tongue2:

For the last time, Tressel did not predict a win against Michigan. He said that the fans would be proud of our players on the field in 310 days at Ann Arbor, Michigan...the word "win" or the word "victory" or the word "triumph" was nowhere in that statement.
 
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hookemhorns2004 said:
As a buckeye, would you rahter have Zwick or Boeckman start for game 1?
Haha, ummmmmmmmmmm... that's a good question. I'd probably have to go with Zwick because of the game experience he brings to the table. That's just between Zwick and Boeckman though... when you bring Smith into the picture it gets really confusing. I don't even want to get into that one...
 
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jwinslow said:
All I know is that Texas' biggest weakness going into this game was their special teams. Longhorn fans had claimed they were good at punt coverage, yet the punters have been shaky and two different guys have run back punts. The kickoff coverage was obviously already an issue, and I'm not convinced that its going to change enough to stop Ginn/Holmes.

All the talk is about OSU losing their kicker/punter, yet our replacements are on scholarship (and both have been excellent in practice) vs. Texas just signed their first player to kick a ball last year (making him a true frosh if he were to play).

It's blatantly obvious which team values special teams more. If the result of working on it all spring involves shaky punting, shaky kicking, and still having coverage issues... then I see no reason why that isn't still a huge advantage for OSU.
I agree with that. Your special teams are better than ours at this point. We are toast if we give you guys the field position we were giving Michigan IMO. Thats why we are working on it...but this aspect does worry me.
 
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has anyone said that special teams would be an advantage for Texas? If it is going as bad as it sounds then they should take an entire day running sprints and practicing kick coverage and returns, it drives me insane and is inexcusable. The kicking game(aside from the actuall kicking part) has nothing to do with talent and everything to do with not giving a fuck about your body and just doing! this primadonna crap kills me. If we aren't significantly improved in SP teams then something is severely wrong.....sorry about misspellings, i got a little fired up there
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
For the last time, Tressel did not predict a win against Michigan. He said that the fans would be proud of our players on the field in 310 days at Ann Arbor, Michigan...the word "win" or the word "victory" or the word "triumph" was nowhere in that statement.
It's called revisionist history :wink2:. I actually knew he didn't predict a win, I was just too lazy to think of how to explain it exactly so people would know what I was talking about. You obviously knew exactly what I meant and explained it better for me, so thanks. :)

And now that I see your explanation I see that I was the ass when it came to the half year thing... haha, I was guesstimating.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
For the last time, Tressel did not predict a win against Michigan. He said that the fans would be proud of our players on the field in 310 days at Ann Arbor, Michigan...the word "win" or the word "victory" or the word "triumph" was nowhere in that statement.
For the last time?

Wishful thinking. :biggrin:
 
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jwinslow said:
Texas just signed their first player to kick a ball last year
Not True. Gerland is the fourth punter Mack has brought in on scholarship and Hunter Lawrence in next years class will be the third kicker. Mack just hasn't been successful recruiting kickers and punters, as walkons have won the jobs since Stockton left.
 
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Buckeye86 said:
On ESPN News Cooper just gave Mack Brown some advice because "we had the same problem at Ohio State against Michigan"... no, YOU had a problem against Michigan you jackass.
Sadly, that's how Stoops seemed to view the TX-OU game from when he first came in, although now he probably thinks he owns Dallas, so he doesn't get as fired up about it. I guess winning five in a row will do that for you.

I am not going to spend the time quoting whoever said it, but someone made a comment about the Texas LBs being affected by the deafening crowd? Do you think that the crowd has much effect on defense? (Seriously asking, not just being snide). While we are talking about the buckeye fans and the horn fans who pay $500 a pop, do you think that the Shoe atmosphere will have as much effect on a team that has never played there before, more effect, less effect? My opinion is that if you don't know what you are going into, then its hard to get nervous about it.

Glad to see that this board is neverending, all it takes is some jackass to post a message comparing the two teams LBs.

Hey guys, I think that our Punt returner will be more effective than yours this year.............
 
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