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OHSportsFan
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That was pretty cheeseball-y. I understand all the actors’ reactions when asked about the ending now. Whatever. It’s over
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Honor&Glory
Paper,Rock, Scissors, Lizard, Spock!
would have been better off with a Sopranos ending...I've been anti fan boi this season but that ending just flat out blew.
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AuTX Buckeye
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Canceled last week but they bill up front
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I could not have wrote a worse ending unless I wrote How I Met Your Mother. I know they are going to do a ton of spinoffs, but why should anyone care? Such a great series and that just ruined everything. Wow.
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- How is Tyrion not in the books when he's obviously in the books... he's #1 in first person chapters. I guess that was #subvertingexpectations ...
- The conversation between Jon and Tyrion about Dany made no sense. Population of KL was never in her way.
- Her own monologues seem divorced from what just happened. She was always destined to burn it... that's as obvious as Jon being a Targaryan... but the writers threw in the towel on how to get there.
- Apparently bells give Dany PTSD for [reasons]. How do you get a writing job there anyway? Is it like being the failed son of a football coach?
- Greyworm won the teleport lottery this week.
- Drogon is the smartest character in the entire series. Burns the throne and fucks off... ending be damned.
- A minute later, Tyrion restores the throne because nobody in Westeros or HBO could think of something else. Why have him burn it then?
- Bran doesnt want it... but then states he travelled there only because he foresaw getting it. Which implies he also foresaw everything Dany would do ... and let it happen so he could be King.
- Everyone is ok with Sansa ditching them. Knights of the Vale - who've been her personal army for 3 seasons... relatives in Riverun... Dorne and Iron Islands werent like "me too!!"
- Arya is a ships captain now... they totally lost any grip on that character arc. Lazy as fuck writing. "What do we do about Arya?" "I dont know... she sails off into the sea"
- "i came here to kill the queen"... I guess 'she kinda forgot about' walking away from that.
- The conversation between Jon and Tyrion about Dany made no sense. Population of KL was never in her way.
- Her own monologues seem divorced from what just happened. She was always destined to burn it... that's as obvious as Jon being a Targaryan... but the writers threw in the towel on how to get there.
- Apparently bells give Dany PTSD for [reasons]. How do you get a writing job there anyway? Is it like being the failed son of a football coach?
- Greyworm won the teleport lottery this week.
- Drogon is the smartest character in the entire series. Burns the throne and fucks off... ending be damned.
- A minute later, Tyrion restores the throne because nobody in Westeros or HBO could think of something else. Why have him burn it then?
- Bran doesnt want it... but then states he travelled there only because he foresaw getting it. Which implies he also foresaw everything Dany would do ... and let it happen so he could be King.
- Everyone is ok with Sansa ditching them. Knights of the Vale - who've been her personal army for 3 seasons... relatives in Riverun... Dorne and Iron Islands werent like "me too!!"
- Arya is a ships captain now... they totally lost any grip on that character arc. Lazy as fuck writing. "What do we do about Arya?" "I dont know... she sails off into the sea"
- "i came here to kill the queen"... I guess 'she kinda forgot about' walking away from that.
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Buckeye86
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To go back to this a second:
Who could have guessed that her diologue would be so delusional and lacking in introspection that it came across as comedy - to talk so boldly of libertating the world from oppression while ash rains down on your head from the smoldering ruins of the city you just burned for no reason was clearly meant to be a comedic parody, right?
It’s funny to me that I actually gave the writers too much credit in my prediction... instead of making Dany a relatable character again to make the decision to kill her a conflicted one, they went with the most basic one-dimensional villain possible so you don’t even feel remorse or regret over her death.
I guess good for them for being consistent? As I said, you can’t really walk back the “mentally snapped and burned a city” switch.
I think they made a mistake by having her burn the entire city. They set up the entire time that Cersei was using civilians as human shields in the Red Keep - why not just have Dany fly there and kill all those people.
A scene where there is a standoff and Cersei is literally standing behind a big room full of people, maybe in the throne room sitting on the iron throne - and Dany makes the completely understandable decision to torch them all to burn Cersei - because she is so full of mourning and rage and she’s come too far to turn back now.
(And hey, in doing this maybe Drogon can melt the iron throne, since that is a visual you wanted so badly you threw it in even though it made no sense for the dragon to have feelings about an inanimate object.)
Maybe Cersei boobie traps the city and when Dany torches the room full of people she accidentally sets off wildfire that burns down the city. So, she makes the decision to burn innocents to kill Cersei, so you get that plot beat, and you also destroy the city, so you get that plot beat - but you don’t have to turn her into a cartoonish villain!
Then she can be a normal relatable human for the finale, so you actually care about what happens to her?
Maybe in a mirror of what happened to Jaime, people blame her for blowing up the entire city but it’s not really her fault because of the Cersei sabotage. But people don’t know that and blame her, and she gets really frustrated and upset and angry about it - you know, furthering the “people don’t love me” plot line they set up.
And then this pushes her to be more and more unhinged - people don’t understand her, it wasn’t her fault, she killed Cersei to save the city! Again, mirroring what happened to Jaime, and like Jaime, maybe she embraces the villain role somewhat, and through ongoing morally ambiguous to outright bad decisions, this is what drives people to ultimately dispose of her?
I feel like they completely misread why the red wedding was so impactful.
Oh, it was the most shocking thing that could have happened - we need to duplicate that at the end!
Her burning the entire city would really be shocking, and therefore good like the red wedding, let’s go with that. People will love it because it’s shocking.
It’s funny to me that I actually gave the writers too much credit in my prediction... instead of making Dany a relatable character again to make the decision to kill her a conflicted one, they went with the most basic one-dimensional villain possible so you don’t even feel remorse or regret over her death.
I guess good for them for being consistent? As I said, you can’t really walk back the “mentally snapped and burned a city” switch.
I think they made a mistake by having her burn the entire city. They set up the entire time that Cersei was using civilians as human shields in the Red Keep - why not just have Dany fly there and kill all those people.
A scene where there is a standoff and Cersei is literally standing behind a big room full of people, maybe in the throne room sitting on the iron throne - and Dany makes the completely understandable decision to torch them all to burn Cersei - because she is so full of mourning and rage and she’s come too far to turn back now.
(And hey, in doing this maybe Drogon can melt the iron throne, since that is a visual you wanted so badly you threw it in even though it made no sense for the dragon to have feelings about an inanimate object.)
Maybe Cersei boobie traps the city and when Dany torches the room full of people she accidentally sets off wildfire that burns down the city. So, she makes the decision to burn innocents to kill Cersei, so you get that plot beat, and you also destroy the city, so you get that plot beat - but you don’t have to turn her into a cartoonish villain!
Then she can be a normal relatable human for the finale, so you actually care about what happens to her?
Maybe in a mirror of what happened to Jaime, people blame her for blowing up the entire city but it’s not really her fault because of the Cersei sabotage. But people don’t know that and blame her, and she gets really frustrated and upset and angry about it - you know, furthering the “people don’t love me” plot line they set up.
And then this pushes her to be more and more unhinged - people don’t understand her, it wasn’t her fault, she killed Cersei to save the city! Again, mirroring what happened to Jaime, and like Jaime, maybe she embraces the villain role somewhat, and through ongoing morally ambiguous to outright bad decisions, this is what drives people to ultimately dispose of her?
I feel like they completely misread why the red wedding was so impactful.
Oh, it was the most shocking thing that could have happened - we need to duplicate that at the end!
Her burning the entire city would really be shocking, and therefore good like the red wedding, let’s go with that. People will love it because it’s shocking.
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AuTX Buckeye
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Re: burning of the throne ....
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