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G/F Evan "The Villain" Turner (2010 Naismith Winner)

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WoodyWorshiper;1686624; said:
Very nice post, and nothing against Schwab who is a great poster and I think just got caught up in the great moment that was shared by all here with Evan being named the Naismith winner. You put the numbers out there, BB, and the numbers don't lie.

As a 47 year old lifelong Buckeye fan in all sports, there are 4 Great Truths in life.

1. Death
2. Taxes
3. There will NEVER be a greater football player at TOSU than Archie
4. There will Never be a greater Hoops player at TOSU than Lucas.

Of course, just my opinion.

Peace
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Back in the day (i.e. 40 years ago or more), people used to say #3...but with the names Harley, Janowicz, Kern, Horvath, or Cassady instead of Archie.

In the late 50's, people used to say #4...about Robin Freeman (28.0 ppg career--still a Buckeye record, and 32.9 ppg in 1956--also still a Buckeye record).

Never say never.
 
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One thing that struck me looking at still photos from the recent Final Fours is this: college basketball is a far more physical game today than it was in the Lucas-Havlicek era. It used to be that touching your opponent was cause for a foul to be called; nowadays, if the contact results in no permanent injury the refs allow play to continue. (An exaggeration, of course, but hand-checking and similar tactics were not allowed in the 1960s.)

One result of this change in officiating is that offensive stats are very much lower today. In today's game, 30-point average scorers are unheard-of; Pistol Pete Maravich averaged an astounding 44 points per game for his college career! He's an aberration to be sure, but it's not really possible to directly compare Evan Turner's 20-and-9 averages with Buckeye greats of the '60s.
 
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MaxBuck said:
One thing that struck me looking at still photos from the recent Final Fours is this: college basketball is a far more physical game today than it was in the Lucas-Havlicek era. It used to be that touching your opponent was cause for a foul to be called; nowadays, if the contact results in no permanent injury the refs allow play to continue. (An exaggeration, of course, but hand-checking and similar tactics were not allowed in the 1960s.)

One result of this change in officiating is that offensive stats are very much lower today. In today's game, 30-point average scorers are unheard-of; Pistol Pete Maravich averaged an astounding 44 points per game for his college career! He's an aberration to be sure, but it's not really possible to directly compare Evan Turner's 20-and-9 averages with Buckeye greats of the '60s.
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(Man, I really hate to be devil's advocate on this one)

Evan Turner also wouldn't be allowed to carry the ball the way he does back in the 1960's.

In the end, it's all relative and Evan is the best player in college basketball for his time.
 
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Maybe the national news outlets (ESPN, CBS, Sports Illustrated, FOX Sports, etc.) are waiting for Evan Turner to win the 2010 Wooden Award as well to post a story?

Grasping, considering every one had a story on Jim Boeheim winning the coach's Naismith Award.
 
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Turner going to LA. Then?

Evan Turner was among five finalists invited today to attend the Wooden Award presentation in Los Angeles on Friday night. The other invitees are Da?Sean Butler of West Virginia, Sherron Collins of Kansas, Wesley Johnson of Syracuse and John Wall of Kentucky.

Turner and coach Thad Matta leave Thursday for LA and return Saturday. Given that, and what Turner said Sunday at the Naismith presentation about enjoying the awards circuit, don't expect an announcement from him on his future until Monday -- the deadline for him to withdraw from classes without risking an Academic Progress Rate penalty for the program.

That Turner is waiting as long as he can to announce his decision I think is another indication that he will enter the NBA draft. I think he's had his mind made up for a while, and if he was coming back, he would have ended the suspense by now.
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Turner going to LA. Then? (Hoops & Scoops: an OSU basketball blog)
 
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I would think you could look at it the other way, if he has had his mind made up on NBA he would have announced it by now, and the longer this goes, the more he is thinking about staying, I still think he goes, but I still don't think its a lock like people make it out to be
 
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