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utgrad73;1683180; said:
Anyone who thinks there are 5 better players in CBB than Evan Turner needs medical help.
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Buckskin86
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There's little reason for Evan Turner to delay the NBA -- except for the campus siren call: Bill Livingston
By Bill Livingston, The Plain Dealer
March 29, 2010
Jeff Roberson / Associated Press
Evan Turner has very little left to prove in college basketball, but bypassing the NBA draft would show a fondness for the campus life that would be a credit to him, says Bill Livingston.
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- One day, when the weather was mild and the dogwood blossoms made the campus look like a blizzard had hit in spring time, the English lit class I was taking left the stuffy Old Science building at Vanderbilt to study outside. Maybe it was Dr. Vereen Bell's way of letting us bond with daffodils, a flower that had made a great impression on William Wordsworth.
The warm grass and the flowering trees remain fixed in my head. I've been out of school a long time now, but that day, with its playing hooky feel when we went outside just because it was too nice to stay in, remains one of the small, sweet memories of my college days.
College works that way. You remember the good times, not the bad. You remember the big moments, such as when Vanderbilt beat Alabama in football in 1969, one week after the Crimson Tide beat Archie Manning and Ole Miss on national television. But you also remember the little moments, like the day we studied Shakespeare al fresco. When enough of them have been added together, they grow into a longer narrative of how you went from a boy to a man.
That's why I think no players should leave college early, although I certainly understand why they do.
College is the last time before you're on the clock. It is about far more than vocational training. In college, I developed interests that have lasted a lifetime. Many have little to do with the craft of writing a story for the newspaper.
There's little reason for Evan Turner to delay the NBA -- except for the campus siren call: Bill Livingston | cleveland.com
Matta: "Don't think (Turner leaving) is done deal" (Hoops & Scoops: an OSU basketball blog)
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Buckskin86
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Mr. Everything
Evan Turner may bring home a bevy of awards, but he' d prefer a team title
Tuesday, March 30, 2010
By Bob Baptist
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
Evan Turner's remarkable third season at Ohio State assured that his No. 21 will someday join the Mount Rushmore of retired numbers hanging above the court in Value City Arena.
It was Evan Turner's goal to be in Indianapolis this weekend.
He will be.
But he will not have reached his goal, which was to take his Ohio State teammates with him to the Final Four.
"I wanted to be recognized as one of the great players to play here," Turner said, "but I wasn't really thinking too much about awards. I was just trying to do enough to make sure my team won, and to earn respect, and pretty much be comfortable with how I left school."
Turner leaves Columbus on Thursday for Indianapolis, where he will receive one national player of the year award and possibly two more during three days of festivities scheduled around the Final Four in Lucas Oil Stadium.
Mr. Everything | BuckeyeXtra
Men's basketball: OSU Insider | BuckeyeXtra
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crazybuckfan40
Head Coach
Optimistic on this one!
NC Championship run if ET comes back for sure!
4 seniors and 1 junior returning and 6 incoming frosh to go along with Kecman and Z still here...a Full 13 hasn't happened here for a long time...
NC Championship run if ET comes back for sure!
4 seniors and 1 junior returning and 6 incoming frosh to go along with Kecman and Z still here...a Full 13 hasn't happened here for a long time...
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BuckeyeTillIDie
The North Remembers
I'd struggle to think of any games they'd lose next year if he came back.
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ysubuck
Be water my friend.
What are the disadvantages to him coming back aside from the obvious money he would be missing out on?
Is he going to get as many minutes as he did this year? Less minutes means less scoring which theoretically would hurt his status. Has he done enough THIS year that next year really wouldn't matter as far as draft status? Diminished minutes is assumed because of what's coming in, but I don't see any serious depth at PG that would diminish pt to any great extent.
I honestly don't know. Looking at this through adult eyes it's easy for me to say "You only get to do college once and, boy, you better make the most of it because it's all business from here on out." But I also never had the opportunity to make millions at what I do.
Is he going to get as many minutes as he did this year? Less minutes means less scoring which theoretically would hurt his status. Has he done enough THIS year that next year really wouldn't matter as far as draft status? Diminished minutes is assumed because of what's coming in, but I don't see any serious depth at PG that would diminish pt to any great extent.
I honestly don't know. Looking at this through adult eyes it's easy for me to say "You only get to do college once and, boy, you better make the most of it because it's all business from here on out." But I also never had the opportunity to make millions at what I do.
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Bill Lucas
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If he comes back someone would have to step up and show they have the ability to give him 3-4 minutes a half rest. What can hurt his draft status? An injury. A new "one and done" next year that is this and all that. A diminishment in his skill set (don't see that one happening).
If he stays his rebounding stats are probably going to drop. Sullinger is going to eat up a lot of boards. Big deal. His ball handling and decision making will get even better. He may get to the point that he gets drafted to be a point guard in the NBA. He needs to improve against smaller harassing guards but he certainly has the work ethic to improve.
It's not for me to say if he should stay or go. That's for him to decide. I do know that if he stays it will benefit Ohio State basketball long after he leaves as it will buy time to develop the second point guard that is needed.
If he stays his rebounding stats are probably going to drop. Sullinger is going to eat up a lot of boards. Big deal. His ball handling and decision making will get even better. He may get to the point that he gets drafted to be a point guard in the NBA. He needs to improve against smaller harassing guards but he certainly has the work ethic to improve.
It's not for me to say if he should stay or go. That's for him to decide. I do know that if he stays it will benefit Ohio State basketball long after he leaves as it will buy time to develop the second point guard that is needed.
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UpNorthBuckeye
Hall of Fame
I think the one thing that might make him come back is his desire to grow as a person, and develop his personality. In fact, you could say his shyness and quietness would be a liability in the NBA.
Would teams still love to have him? Sure.
But it has been said that over the last 15 years of his young life, he has gone from being a shy, withdrawing momma's boy to being a superstar, getting comfortable in front of cameras, and in the process becoming more of a basketball player and a leader.
I would advise him that, if he comes back, just assume you won't win all your games, and don't be disappointed if you don't win the National Championship. But it's okay to come back and try to achieve it. No guarantees.
If you look at the one-and-dones, and for that matter, guys like LeBron who could and did go straight into the NBA, that's not Turner. He has improved every year he's been here, and one more year should not hurt him.
I, too, am glad for him to go into the NBA if that's what he wants to do. But maybe he doesn't want to, just yet.
V-bet?????
Would teams still love to have him? Sure.
But it has been said that over the last 15 years of his young life, he has gone from being a shy, withdrawing momma's boy to being a superstar, getting comfortable in front of cameras, and in the process becoming more of a basketball player and a leader.
I would advise him that, if he comes back, just assume you won't win all your games, and don't be disappointed if you don't win the National Championship. But it's okay to come back and try to achieve it. No guarantees.
If you look at the one-and-dones, and for that matter, guys like LeBron who could and did go straight into the NBA, that's not Turner. He has improved every year he's been here, and one more year should not hurt him.
I, too, am glad for him to go into the NBA if that's what he wants to do. But maybe he doesn't want to, just yet.
V-bet?????
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2002AGAIN
Who wants to be a Wilderness Explorer?
I hope he leaves, for his sake. With the uncertainty on the NBA CBA, it might mean the loss of quite a few million dollars (if a new rookie pay scale is actually implemented). And there's a lot of things he can't control, like injury, the next one and done wonder, etc...I think it's in his best interest to leave now.
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