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G/F Evan "The Villain" Turner (2010 Naismith Winner)

Steve19;1616469; said:
I guess the issue is, how bad are those fractures?

Not bad enough to show up on an x-ray? *shrug* Didn't the articles say that the fractures were only discovered when they ran an MRI?

Anyway, this is the type of things that's going to be entirely dependent on Evan's individual physiology, since there apparently isn't any surgery or other medical treatment involved. You think we'd be at a point where someone would have developed a drug to make bones heal faster. That would be sweet. :tongue2:
 
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Also, when comparing the Lighty situation, I think the decision to bring him back may have also been based on his ability to make the jump to the NBA. Lighty is more of a program guy - bringing him back late in the season with no time to get back in basketball shape vs. an extra year of eligibility may have been a non-medical decision.

In Evan's case, of course the chances of using all of his college eligibilty are pretty low as it is. I think if he can come back at all, even out of shape, he is more likely to do so. I still don't have a feeling for what type of excercise he could perform (if any) during this recovery to reduce the time to return to playing shape. Maybe one of the resident docs could shed some light on that.

The important thing, of course, is that Evan will be OK in the longterm, and even if he never plays another minute for tOSU, has been an incredible Buckeye. Get well soon son.
 
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You might want to read Steve19 and my posts that are above. Both of us think he will be very fortunate to come back in 8 weeks. Sometimes when you wear a brace or any orthopedic device that gives you support it sometimes detours rather than helps the healing process. It almost gives that area a false sense of support and the muscles around that area catch on to that.
As much as I dont like to intrude into these discussions....as a doctor, you can not make assumptions as to how long an athlete will be out based on books, charts, pictures or what you know. You have to examine the patient and look at that x-ray.

If the team physicians say his recovery is 8 weeks, then I believe it will be around 8 weeks. FWIW
 
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Evan Turner certain he'll beat doctors' estimates in recovery from back injury: Ohio State Insider
By Doug Lesmerises, The Plain Dealer
December 10, 2009

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Terry Gilliam / Associated Press
Evan Turner is already telling teammates and coach Thad Matta that his recovery time from broken bones in his back will be less than the estimated eight weeks.

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Evan Turner wants to come back early.

When Ohio State's best basketball player broke bones in his back during a fall last Saturday after a dunk try, the Buckeyes' athletic training staff estimated eight weeks as Turner's timetable for a return. That would put him back in the lineup on Jan. 31, and Ohio State coach Thad Matta said Thursday that Turner's personal goal is before that.

"I know what Evan's target date is that he swears he will be back playing," Matta said. "He said, 'I will be ready to go for this game right here.'"

Matta wouldn't say what that date was, but any earlier return would be unexpected.

Some medical personnel outside the program have suggested that eight weeks is an ambitious timetable. Matta said Turner has been walking in a pool at the Buckeyes' football facility to start his rehab, but his conditioning will be limited while he's out. That will create more lag time between his first practice and his first game action.

Still, teammate P.J. Hill was off-handedly talking about Turner missing four or six weeks when speaking on Thursday.

The most important part of Turner's recovery, according to Matta, will be the muscles that connect to Turner's back more than the healing of the bones themselves. Turner has to keep his head in the game as well. Matta said he saw Turner smile on Wednesday for the first time since the injury.

"I just tried to tell him to look for the best of things," said teammate David Lighty, who broke his foot last December and missed the rest of the season. "I just tell him, don't worry about it, don't think about it too much, don't make this be a burden on your heart, that you let the team down or why is this happening. Just deal with it, take it in stride and look for positive things."

Matta didn't say whether Hill or guard Jeremie Simmons would replace Turner in the starting lineup for Saturday's game at Butler. But Lighty could see some time at point guard as well.

Evan Turner certain he'll beat doctors' estimates in recovery from back injury: Ohio State Insider | Ohio State Buckeyes - cleveland.com - - cleveland.com
 
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Turner's recovery time could be revised next week

Big Ten coaches had a teleconference with the media this morning. During Thad Matta's 10 minutes, Jeff Goodman of FoxSports.com told Matta he had spoken with two former players who had injuries similar to Evan Turner's -? transverse process fractures of the lower back -? and both told Goodman they returned from them in about a month.

Goodman asked Matta if Turner's recovery time could be shorter than the 8 weeks initially forecast. Matta said it was too soon to tell. Next week, he implied, doctors may have a better idea.

"They want to get through the two weeks (Turner was injured Dec.5) and just try to let everything settle down (in) the muscles and bones," he said. "At that point, we can have a little bit more of an assessment of, 'Is it going to be four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks?'

"Nobody has said anything (definitive) right now. We?re hoping that he?s such an athletic kid -- he?s never been injured before -- that there?s something in his system genetically that will get him back a little bit quicker."

Matta said Turner was at the Schottenstein Center on Sunday.

"He says he?s feeling better," Matta said. "But it?s one of those things (that) Evan is a hyper kid and we?ve really got to watch that he doesn?t try to do too much. We?re going to make sure this week he does nothing. (We?re) just really trying to let the bones heal as much as anything."

Turner's recovery time could be revised next week (Hoops & Scoops: an OSU basketball blog)
 
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Ultra encouraging news. Even if he can be back in 6 weeks. Should be 10-2 going into a rough 5 game stretch. Even go 2-3 out of those games and you are looking at 12-5 and he would be back Jan 16th vs Wisky. 5 games earlier than the original 8 week projection. 14 games remaining prior to B10 tourney. need to go 8-6 or 9-5 to get into tourney.
 
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LitlBuck;1616435; said:
You might want to read Steve19 and my posts that are above. Both of us think he will be very fortunate to come back in 8 weeks. Sometimes when you wear a brace or any orthopedic device that gives you support it sometimes detours rather than helps the healing process. It almost gives that area a false sense of support and the muscles around that area catch on to that.
I read them, but I hope you notice that there's more stuff that's now been posted in this thread to back up that this is the type of injury you can come back from in a month (i.e., Jeff Goodman spoke w/ two guys who came back in a month from similar injuries, and ET is targeting coming back sooner). Now, it's not for sure that he'll come back quickly - Dominic James somehow came back and played in less than a month after getting the same injury as Lighty last year while Lighty lost 3 months - but I think there's more empirical support for the "less than 8 weeks" than there is for "very fortunate to come back in 8 weeks" ... hopefully we'll get good news next week when they're supposed to know more about how things are healing.
 
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Turner's goal: Play 3 weeks from tonight

Evan Turner?s target date for playing in a game is Jan.6, when the Ohio State men?s basketball team faces Indiana in Value City Arena.

Turner, who has not been made available to the media by Ohio State since he fractured two bones in his lower back Dec.5, reportedly told "a source close to the Lantern," the university's student newspaper, last night that he "will be back playing in three weeks," or 4 1/2 weeks after the injury occurred.

Doctors' original prognosis was for Turner to miss eight weeks.

"That's his own timetable -- however unrealistic," Turner's mother, Iris James, said by telephone today with a touch of humor in her voice.

"Being a mom, it?s kind of hard to burst his bubble because we want him to stay uplifted. He?s a determined young man."

Turner's timetable would mean he would miss only two Big Ten games, at Wisconsin on Dec. 31 and at Michigan on Jan. 3, and six in all.

James did not discount that her son could return sooner than expected but said "it all depends on how his therapy goes. He has the heart to get it done. Will his body let him do it is the question."

Turner's goal: Play 3 weeks from tonight (Hoops & Scoops: an OSU basketball blog)
 
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