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JCOSU86 said:
prof: I don't remember the exact wording, but it was something to the effect of "OSU's offense made me fall asleep". Just not a very well-thought-out remark.
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He just made some poor comments about the OSU offense after he made his decision. I took them as one of those situations of trying to make yourself look better by making negative comments about your competition.
 
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I don't remember the exact wording, but it was something to the effect of "OSU's offense made me fall asleep". Just not a very well-thought-out remark.
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That was one of the remarks I recall him making and I was wondering if there were others that I do not remember. You are correct that it wasn't well-thought-out, but many 18 year-olds have that problem. I don't see how that was "disparaging"; as I recall, the OSU offense last year was, well, less than exciting, as it was for most of this year. I am not defending FD here at all, but we all know at times last year and this year the offense was very predictable, or as FD might say, "Put me to sleep".

buckin - Who says I can't do that :biggrin:?!? (Just kidding; I didn't. I don't know who did, but thanks)
 
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buckiprof: "I agree. However, many athletes who receive a D1 schollie have some degree of an "attitude problem". Part of the maturation process is how quickly one's attitude can be adjusted."

Prof, let me say this: I couldn't agree with your 'maturation process from 18 to 21' post anymore if I had written it myself. In fact, I probably could've written it myself.

However, I think there's a thin line between a maturity process and a kid who doesn't have his head on straight. Fred Davis hasn't shown me an inkling (to date) that he has anykind of a head on his shoulders.

And, a quality inherent in people that doesn't need to be developed with maturity is loyalty. Davis has repeatedly that he doesn't have the character to be loyal to anything or anyplace. He bailed on his home state Buckeyes, and showed no class out the door with some ill-advised comments, and he bailed on his team en route to the National Title Game! What use would any program have for a kid who poo-poo's a trip to the Orange Bowl??

For argument's sake, lets say Tressell was willing to take on a kid that has attitude/maturity/loyalty problems because in spite of that, he can play. Davis doesn't even have that going for him!! He couldn't crack the top four recievers at USC (all open for the taking at the start of the season), is too big and bulky to play WR, and doesn't want to block at TE!!

Lets face it: Davis is a big time recruit who's driving 65 on a Highway straight to "Bust" status. Why would OSU want him? He hasn't shown that he can play a lick, and the only thing he has (in fact) shown is that he's an attitude problem who puts himself above the team. Enjoy USC, Fred, please! Stay there!
 
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<<wow, i must be a blind man walking through a dark room when it comes to this subject.

everyone, including myself, are willing to look past Fred's handling of his recruitment. he made bad decisions and deserves a second chance. if it were just about his recruitment and nothing else. however that is not the case.

i can't believe no one is willing to acknowledge what has occurred since he's been at SC.
-late for practice 5 or 6 times. practice we talking about practice? practice? (sorry had to do the AI reference) but all kidding aside that alone is very concerning.
-has been kicked out of practice.
-has been suspended from USC games.
-has been in academic trouble since he's been at SC.

call me crazy, but this doesn't really sound like a man who has matured and learned from past mistakes. i just can't believe with everything occurring at tOSU right now, that we would welcome with open arms a kid like this.

we talk about character and those who understand what a priviledge it is to be a buckeye. today we saw a great article about Thomas Matthews, he gets it. he understands what it means to be a buckeye. he didn't skip town and go back to Florida, just because he wasn't getting the playing time he thought he deserved. he didn't miss practices. he wasn't suspended from the team. he went to class. he did what was right, and his teammates love him. there is no greater compliment than to be loved, respected, and admired by your peers.

i don't want to be perceived as being too hard on Fred, but come on, no one else is bothered by his attitude while at SC.

i really would feel best if he would just stick it out at SC. get out of Pete's doghouse, and get his education. to me, that would be a sign of him maturing into a serious student athlete.
however, that will not be the case. >>



I took the above post from the BN Insiders board. The poster (pittbuck361) summed up my feelings alot more eloquently than I could do.
 
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If FD is interested in attending tOSU, then I am sure he will need to explain to Tressel what has changed between 3/3/04 and now that would convince Tressel that FD wants to be a part of tOSU team.

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Early arrival could fill Williams' shoes

By Scott Wolf
Staff Writer

He didn't quite sneak out of town, but when USC receiver Fred Davis left Toledo, Ohio, in late January, he didn't give much notice.

Davis said he committed to USC and boarded a plane two days later for Los Angeles, where he enrolled for the spring semester after graduating early from high school.

"I made a plane reservation right away," Davis said. "People were (stunned). I still have to say goodbye to everybody."

Although generally considered one of the top 20 players in the nation, the Ohio native's decision to enroll early at USC became extremely more interesting when All-American receiver Mike Williams announced last week he was turning pro.

That leaves the Trojans with two openings at receiver, with Williams and Keary Colbert gone, and gives Davis a chance to win a starting spot beginning Saturday, when the Trojans open spring practice.

Although Davis is soft-spoken, he's brimming with confidence on the eve of his first college practice.

"A good season for me would be breaking Mike's (freshman) record," Davis said. "I'd be happy with that. It's not impossible. I think it could happen."

Williams merely set NCAA freshman records for receptions (81), yards (1,265) and touchdowns (14) in 2002.

"I don't know if I can replace him, but I can try to be good. I want to be better than anyone who plays receiver here," Davis said. "I don't ever think I'm worse than anyone."

It's a natural comparison between Williams and Davis because of the physical resemblance. Davis is 6-foot-4 and 220 pounds despite never lifting weights before last season. And even USC's coaches compare him favorably in some respects.

"He's a big guy. Right now, he's a lot smoother than Mike as a freshman," USC offensive coordinator Norm Chow said. "He runs better. Now, whether he can catch, we'll find out."

Davis has something else in common with Williams. They each caught just 17 passes in their senior year. But Davis was also a tailback and finished the season with more than 600 yards rushing and more than 500 receiving.

"Whenever they needed help, they put me back there," Davis said of his time at tailback.

Nebraska recruited him as a tailback, but Davis said he "thought they were crazy."

His aversion to running offenses is probably what allowed USC to pluck him out of Ohio, even though he was ranked as the state's No. 2 player and lived a couple of hours from Ohio State.

"I went to Ohio State games and I really thought they were boring," Davis said. "I kind of fell asleep. Their offense makes you fall asleep.

"They're near my hometown, so they'll probably take care of me if I went there, but what's the reason to play there? To block?"

With Ohio State out, Davis narrowed his choices to USC and Miami. But he quickly discovered he wasn't a fan of the Hurricanes' offense.

"Miami is like a running team. They didn't throw a lot," Davis said. "They didn't have good stats at receiver."

Ironically, it was Williams who helped convince Davis to leave the Midwest for USC, after Davis initially wondered whether a player far from home could play right away.

"Mike told me people from out of state could play here because he's from Florida," Davis said.

Then again, Davis might have committed sooner if he knew Williams would forgo his final two years of eligibility.

"It probably would have made it easier and quicker to commit," he said.

Davis said he wasn't scared off by the fact two other highly touted receivers -- Dwayne Jarrett of New Brunswick, N.J., and Derrick Jones of Long Beach Poly -- signed with the Trojans.

"When I saw the receiver class coming in, I thought, 'I've got to be in that,' " Davis said.

Davis knew he would have an advantage over other recruits because he enrolled early.

"It's going to be harder for them. I'll be used to this system," Davis said.

Since Jarrett is actually an inch taller, one question next season will be "Who is better?"

"I don't think anyone's better (than me)," Davis said. "But we're both on the same level."

USC receivers coach Lane Kiffin, who recruited Davis and Jarrett, said the two are different players.

"Jarrett is more of a lanky receiver. He's got more of a chance to be like Mike, because Davis is faster," Kiffin said. "Fred can be quicker."

Kiffin said Davis drew his attention because of his breakaway speed.

"He just ran away from kids in high school," Kiffin said. "It's hard to tell right now what he can do. But he knew he had a chance for a big role if he came here."

Scott Wolf, (818) 713-3607 [email protected]

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BuckeyeNation27 said:
is it wrong that im laughing my ass off at that article? :lol:
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BN27, I didn't follow USC that closely this season. Are you implying that FD didn't break Mike Williams' freshmen receiving records?


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OK, I looked it up. 4 catches for 30 yards this year.
 
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I say fuck the kid.... he is a fucking loser and he can think about his actions when he is fucking greeter at Wal Mart....Fuck him, Fuck Marcus Ray, Fuck Crable, Fuck Manningham, Fuck Kijana Carter, Curtis Enos, Desmond Howard, Charles Woodson, Elvis Grbac, Burgess, Mike Busin, Ricky Powers, Especially Scott Loefler,Joe Jurevcious, Lee Evans, Chris Chambers...etc. They all left the state and you guys can pretty much see what I think of kids that dont go to OSU!
 
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