Florida's been around since 1990 or longer

[Magua]

I feel dumber having read this thread. I hate Florida and now Meyer as much as the next Buckeye fan but my god it's getting ridiculous. If you can't acknowledge Florida and the rest of the SEC as being very very good right now than you have no business discussing college football.

oh yeah. fuck the florida gators, tim tebow, and urban meyer.

 

[Gatorubet]

MSJ - your success in provoking some kind of Urban/UF sympathy on BP- no matter how slight or transient =

 

[jwinslow]

What, you mean Florida isn't Boise State with some defense? :p

There's no question that they are a great program. I have some gripes with their regional scheduling, the circular logic of most of the SEC's greatness, but UF is certainly an elite program.

 

[Sportsbuck28]

This is like something I would expect us to link from a scUM scout board.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

What have they done since Meyer's been there? Get a bullshit win in the Outback Bowl over Iowa in '05, win two national titles, lose to a terrible Michigan team in '07, blow out and keep starters in all game against an OVERRATED cincy team, and beat 4 D1AA schools, 1 Mountain West, 5 Sun Belt, 2 CUSA, and 1 WAC team? Sure the titles are nice but lets face it he has it pretty easy when it comes to competition.

Last time I checked, both teams playing in the national title game are pretty good, and I seem to remember them kicking our nuts up into our throats in the desert. And the 2007 Michigan team was far from "terrible". Regardless of who they may play in OOC games, the SEC has been the premier conference during Meyer's stint at Florida so they play a pretty fair amount of solid teams annually in-conference.

 

[powerlifter]

ITT we discuss with strong hate,and act as if florida never wins..carry on

 

[Gatorubet]

 

[msj2487]

The part you bolded doesn't make sense either. You don't face easy competition in the national championship game.

No, but it helps them get there. I still don't care if people don't agree with me, I hate the SEC more than anything else, so I will continue to point out any and all reasons to debunk their success no matter what. Deal with it.

 

[3074326]

I can't deal with it. I really want you to respect Florida. :(

 

[matcar]

No, but it helps them get there. I still don't care if people don't agree with me, I hate the SEC more than anything else, so I will continue to point out any and all reasons to debunk their success no matter what. Deal with it.

Well, you'll sound like a mindless buffoon while doing it. If you're OK with that... There's simply no questioning that Florida is fantastic program at this point. As others have note, the SEC Superior logic is circular and frustrating...but the top end of the SEC has proved to be exceptional recently. You might want to "deal with it." as well.

 

[Bleed S & G]

I hate the SEC more than anything else, so I will continue to point out any and all reasons to debunk their success no matter what. Deal with it.

Get a life, dude.

You're missing my point completely, you can respect the gaytors all you want, I on the other will never respect anything from the SEC or USC, its just the way I am.

You sound like a M*ch*g*n fan.

 

[cincibuck]

I'll bold this one for you in return:

You're missing my point completely, you can respect the gaytors all you want, I on the other will never respect anything from the SEC or USC, its just the way I am.

I see no reason to respect them either, especially when every SEC team gets to play the cupcakes to the cupcakes and have 6 or 7 undefeated and ranked teams at the beginning of the season so the media dangles from their sacs and says WOW what a conference, they just beat each other up. Putting Ole Miss at #4 earlier this season was an absolute joke as was having Vandy even considered for a ranking a few years ago.

MSJ? Mount Saint Joseph?

No one with a design on getting to a bowl game plays more than 1 top 25 team in their OOC schedule. I think Kansas State was the first program to figure that out and if you'd been down as long as they had you'd have put Little Debbie, Dolly Madison and Betty Crocker on your schedule too.

Top 25 programs seldom play more than three or four games per year with someone their equal. You can look at Florida and the SEC and point fingers, but few teams, OSU included, play more than 1 game outside their region during the regular season.

While you're at it, give Notre Dame credit, they play both coasts, the Mid-West and Southern teams year in and year out.

 

[BB73]

MSJ? Mount Saint Joseph?

No one with a design on getting to a bowl game plays more than 1 top 25 team in their OOC schedule. I think Kansas State was the first program to figure that out and if you'd been down as long as they had you'd have put Little Debbie, Dolly Madison and Betty Crocker on your schedule too.

Karma came calling this year as a 6-6 K-State squad was ineligible for a bowl game since two of their wins were against non-FBS (1-A) teams, UMass and Tennessee Tech. Only 1 is allowed to count toward the 6-win total each year, which is one NCAA rule I was glad to see this year.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

...While you're at it, give Notre Dame credit, they play both coasts, the Mid-West and Southern teams year in and year out.

Your overall point is a good one. Most teams don't schedule a major intersectional game every year, playing it on the road every other year. Ohio State does it once a year and very few do it more than that.

Notre Dame is not a good example though. ND had very tough schedules back in the day. Any more, USC is the only elite team on their schedule; and even that is no longer a certainty moving forward. These days I'll give them credit for playing one tough intersectional game like many other teams do; but giving them credit for more than that doesn't pass the smell test. Their other intersectional games are no big deal.


Their series with TSUN is no different than any other team in the region; they shouldn't get a pat on the back because their series with TSUN happens to be an OOC game. ALL of their games are non-conference games.

 

[zincfinger]

While you're at it, give Notre Dame credit, they play both coasts, the Mid-West and Southern teams year in and year out.

I agree with the earlier, unquoted, portion of your post. But why would you call for Notre Dame to be credited for doing something that naturally, really inevitably, comes with the territory of being an independent? If you're affiliated with a conference, you're obviously going to play mostly regional opponents. If you're unaffiliated, you can (and virtually must) play opponents from all over the country. What matters is the average caliber of your opponents. Notre Dame's okay in this regard, but nothing that merits particular credit.