Fla St +24.5 at Florida (ov/un 55.5)

[xcrunner]

The Tebow love fest has to be beyond annoying. The Gator team, however, and the program, are business like and solid. So no matter how arrogant the reptile fans might be, the players have been taking each game seriously. Bama may beat us. So could Texas and McCoy. But if they do, it will not be because the players on the field are too cocky. They appear very, very dialed in to me. More importantly, Corch thinks that we are dialed in.

And I always trust the coaches.

I know very little about UF this year. I've barely watched them. All I know is this--

We were saying the same thing in '06. I've come to dread being the favorite. As much as the coaches, the players, and even the fans say that they're not overlooking the opponent.. There's just something there. Some psychological factor that really helps the underdog. I just see it again and again. Everyone says all the right things, but at the end of the day, the underdog just wants it more. It really makes it a bitch to be favored :p

 

[Gatorubet]

[strike]You support one of the programs who have traditionally been given the benefit of the doubt by most voters historically, by virtue of your conference and program history, in ranking and recognition. I look at it as you reaping a benefit for your years of consistent excellence. Florida has reached that point for the last decade or so. We have earned it by virtue of our hard work and participation in a tough conference while "showing up" in major games on the national stage.

So if you want to move the thread to a discussion about the present system versus a playoff, then feel free. But that does nothing to disparage the UF current #1 ranking. We play in the SEC, the recognized strongest conference in national polls (no matter how much you disagree, the rest of the country thinks otherwise), are the defending National Champions, the current owner of the longest winning streak in the country, have the second longest bowl appearance streak in the nation, and if things go really bad on Saturday, we get to play in the BCS Sugar Bowl.

So if you have had a partly self induced drop in status, "penalized", as you say, by a perception that you are temporarily not given the status that you have been happy to receive the last fifty years, then what the [censored] does that have to do with [censored]ing in my Cheerios trying to enjoy Florida's win over the Noles?

It's like you blame us for the USC and LSU games, and blame us for causing your claim of being "penalized". Jesus! You are going to the [censored]ing ROSE BOWL as the multiple repeat Big 10 Champ!

I hope you get so fortunate to have that kind of penalty each and every year. [/strike]

What I meant to say was:

 

[JimsSweaterVest]

What I meant to say was:

SEC!!!1!! SEC!1!!1!! SEC11!!!!1!! SEC!!1!!!1! SEC1!!1!!

Yes we all know what you mean to say.

 

[BB73]

Why are they laughing about them staying in their stance??? They did that earlier in the game, and were in the stance for like 30 seconds longer. Were they not watching the FSU line earlier? Probably not. I bet they were drooling over Tebow on the sidelines. Don't worry guys, 1 more minute and you can go join him in your orgy.

FSU has done that in multiple games this year. For them to act like it was a called trick play, rather than just the linemen staying in their stances when the center snaps the ball after a D-lineman jumps offside, was just clueless. On the 4th time it happened, Gary D. finally said what was going on.

Like OregonBuckeye said, Danielson used to be very good, and now he's just an SEC shill.

 

[BigWoof31]

Nope, the conference as a whole lacks a gracious sense about it.

Thank god for that. It's a football conference, not the god-damn Junior League. I want all the teams in the conference to be spitting anger and pissing confidence - it only makes the competition better and the league better.

....and just as we suffered at the end of 2006...so shall it be for the University of Florida and their Gators.

With all due respect - if Florida beats Alabama and goes to Pasadena - they would have played and triumphed over a significantly more talented slate of opponents than 06 OSU

 

[JimsSweaterVest]

With all due respect - if Florida beats Alabama and goes to Pasadena - they would have played and triumphed over a significantly more talented slate of opponents than 06 OSU

HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!

 

[BigWoof31]

HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!

If UF ends up playing Texas - That will be a monster game. Maybe even bigger than USC/Texas from 2005.

Would love to see the Neilsen ratings from that night!

 

[Buckeneye]

Thank god for that. It's a football conference, not the god-damn Junior League. I want all the teams in the conference to be spitting anger and pissing confidence - it only makes the competition better and the league better.

Lord knows I wont disagree. But where's the humility?

Fuck sake we still have SEC trolls that come onto this very board spouting off "SEC speed" "0-9" etc etc. And its been nearly 4 years since the Debacle in Glendale.

Then you get these pricks who back Tennesee, LSU () and a small handful of other schools, who's powers combine to form one giant voltron douchebag.


You won the fucking game(s), your not Miami. Gracious in victory, modest in defeat. The conference fans as a whole seem to lack it - and some of the players.

I can only imagine how bitter Gator fans would be or how much static we'd hear if OSU actually won in Glendale.

With all due respect - if Florida beats Alabama and goes to Pasadena - they would have played and triumphed over a significantly more talented slate of opponents than 06 OSU

One Alabama team (while very good) doesn't overcome Texas and M*chigan.
I think it would be interesting watching the 06 scUM defense vs the 09 Bama offense. It pains me to say they were pretty damn good at defending the running game that year, and Bama plays right into the strength of just that.

Florida runs out various spread formations, and as Oregon showed, scUM defenes lacked the mental discpline to take proper routes and tackle.

 

[Gatorubet]

If the entire country played football with the mindset and attitude of the Big-10 (or SEC, PAC-10, etc.) it would be a boring [censored]ing football universe. It is the diversity of traditions and attitudes that make it interesting to go to other venues and watch how things are done. And each team and conference minimized their own foibles and maximizes the other guy's issues. I've seen the Penn State video where they throw beer cans at the innocent fans walking by. I heard about couches being burned somewhere and cars overturned because they - won.

I've seen and experienced bad behavior from LSU fans. I've had empty glass booze bottles thrown at me from behind my seat at FSU. I've been told by fans of tOSU that Florida had no tradition, our quarterback sucked, our offense was a gimmick that would be crushed by a "real" defense, and told that Urban Meyer had never had a big game before, so I had better park at the outer parking areas as I would want to leave the game early. Another group of Buckeyes I passed were drinking heavily. They said something about hearing banjo music as we walked by, so they were not so well versed on Southern geography.

I am sure as many 15 year olds get access to computers in the Big-10 as they do down south. I am sure that both sides of that demographic will post in a manner befitting their age. And so I question whether an influx of trolls on any particular message board is a good indicator of the broad spectrum of SEC fans. South Carolina has not one thing in common to Louisiana, nor are Florida and Arkansas the least bit similar in culture.

We are on a roll right now in the SEC and as a Gator. It makes you a little cocky. I am old enough, having graduated the March before the 0-10-1 1979 season, to realize that this period of excellence shall pass one day and it can disappear in an instant, see Nebraska and Notre Dame and SMU . But I do not expect teenagers or adult aged idiots to not be idiots when we are winning. Hell, idiots will be idiots when they lose! And I am not convinced that there is a dearth of idiots in the Big-10 compared to the SEC.

I offer file and introduce into evidence Exhibit "A", BuckNuts, and Exhibit "B", GoBlue.

 

[BigWoof31]

I think it would be interesting watching the 06 scUM defense vs the 09 Bama offense. It pains me to say they were pretty damn good at defending the running game that year, and Bama plays right into the strength of just that.

But didn't Michigan suffer from a lack of difficult schedule too? Once they played competent run games (Ohio State in Columbus and SC in Pasadena) they were shredded. I can remember two Buckeyes ripping 50+ yard TD runs. UM was exposed for an even weaker schedule than OSU (the win in Austin was excellent - but it was Texas' weakest Team since 2005

 

[Jaxbuck]

But didn't Michigan suffer from a lack of difficult schedule too? Once they played competent run games (Ohio State in Columbus and SC in Pasadena) they were shredded. I can remember two Buckeyes ripping 50+ yard TD runs. UM was exposed for an even weaker schedule than OSU (the win in Austin was excellent - but it was Texas' weakest Team since 2005

Can't speak for the USC game but the only reason OSU tore them up is we spread them out and exposed their lack of athleticism and depth. I can't imagine anyone who tried to go right at that team in tight formations would have much success. They were built to stop their own offense in the last years of Lloyd and that is what OSU used against them from 2004-2006.

 

[NFBuck]

If UF ends up playing Texas - That will be a monster game. Maybe even bigger than USC/Texas from 2005.

Would love to see the Neilsen ratings from that night!

No it won't. Not even close.

'05 USC was being universally trumpeted as one of, no...THE greatest team of all time. Leinart/Bush/White/Jarrett/Smith was much more starpower than St. Tebow/stable of RBs/WRs and VY's starpower was much higher than Colt's (as good as he is). There was also the Bush/VY Heisman debate. Tebow/Colt may square off for the Heisman, but it's not recieving the same hype as they aren't looked upon as the only two guys. The '05 Texas squad was way more hyped too There was much more star power/hype in that '05 game.

 

[BigWoof31]

No it won't. Not even close.

'05 USC was being universally trumpeted as one of, no...THE greatest team of all time. Leinart/Bush/White/Jarrett/Smith was much more starpower than St. Tebow/stable of RBs/WRs and VY's starpower was much higher than Colt's (as good as he is). There was also the Bush/VY Heisman debate. Tebow/Colt may square off for the Heisman, but it's not recieving the same hype as they aren't looked upon as the only two guys. The '05 Texas squad was way more hyped too There was much more star power/hype in that '05 game.

Agree to disagree. If McCoy wins the Heisman - it'll be Heisman trophy winner vs. Heisman Trophy winner/Jesus in the Rose Bowl for the Crystal Football.

Something tells me that will draw a huge audience. Bigger than 05 in ratings? Time will tell.

 

[BB73]

But didn't Michigan suffer from a lack of difficult schedule too? Once they played competent run games (Ohio State in Columbus and SC in Pasadena) they were shredded. I can remember two Buckeyes ripping 50+ yard TD runs. UM was exposed for an even weaker schedule than OSU (the win in Austin was excellent - but it was Texas' weakest Team since 2005

After the loss to tOSU, they won several games in a row, and were actually positioned for a possible rematch in the BCS title game, when Colt McCoy got a concussion attempting a QB sneak on the goal line against Kansas State. They lost that game by 3 points and the next game at aTm (7-12) since Colt wasn't himself after the concussion.

2006 tOSU remains the only team in CFB history to play in three AP #1 vs AP #2 games in the same season, and the only team to ever win a pair of those games and not be a national champion. Any attempt to disparage tOSU's schedule in 2006 will fall on my deaf ears.

 

[Buckeneye]

Once they played competent run games (Ohio State in Columbus and SC in Pasadena) they were shredded.

They played a damn fine Wisconsin team that year who breathes the running game, they did good against that attack - which was arguably just as strong if not stronger than our running game that year.


On top of that, IIRC it was a 3 all tie midway through the 3rd in the Rose Bowl vs USC that year. And USC had a very good running game as well.

It wasn't until PC finally took some notes from the OSU offense and exploited the full lineup of their secondary that they were successful in moving the ball.

Had USC kept lining up like they were, I'm not sure who wins that game.

I can remember two Buckeyes ripping 50+ yard TD runs.

Only made possible by the Bucks spreading the field and torching their DB's...
We came out 3,4 & 5WR sets for the majority of the 1st half. The first run (by Beanie) came out of a shotgun 3wide and showed the poor tackling in space.

The second run I doubt scUM even expected. ISO for Pittman who splits the poor angles of the safeties and houses the ball.

The rest of the running done in The Game was mainly situational which consisted of some midirection and a few obvious calls for 1st downs.