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First BCS released 10/17

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jwinslow said:
The NCAA is not willing to add a plus one game, let alone 3 extra games required for a 16 team playoff. Besides, when was the last time you felt bad for anyone who wasn't in the top 8? In a perfect world 16 might be nice, but there isn't enough time in the schedule.

even just a 4 team BCS playoff would do wonders, and would solve virtually every controversy I can remember in its history. (I may be forgetting one scenario)
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There will never be a true playoff. University Presidents will never support it.
 
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Bucklion said:
There will never be a true playoff. University Presidents will never support it.
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You wave enough $$ under their noses and they'll support a 12 month season, a day-glo pink football, a world cup format tournament and Rosanne Barr singing the national anthem at halftime.

Problem is the amount of money they already oversee is so large that the amount required to convert them to playoff proponents would be almost impossible to produce.
 
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BB73 said:
So, does the ESPN expert realize that one human poll didn't drop the Irish, the other dropped them from 9th to 12th, but the computers rank them 22, 23, 25, 25, NR, and NR? And that's why they're not near the top ten in the FIRST BCS rankings of the season.
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And there's the problem with removing margin of victory from the computer polls that are used in the BCS. In the process of removing MoV to disuade coaches from running up the score, the loss of MoV produces the effect that a computer polling system cannot measure the closeness of a loss to determine how good a team really is. The BCS computers cannot tell the difference when a Top-10 team losses to another Top-10 team by 3 points or 30 points, all that matters is whether it's a W or an L.

Of all the teams' fans that should be happy with removing margin of victory, you could make a strong case that Ohio State is the biggest beneficiary with past game scores like 10-6 or 14-9. So the irony, of course, is that OSU is seriously hurt by MoV this year, since the closeness of the losses to Texas and PSU, and the blowouts of Miami OH and Iowa, don't matter.

It doesn't make a lick of difference right now, but at the end of the regular season it would be huge if ND and OSU were both sitting at 9 wins and were jockeying for the final BCS polls #6 spot -- ND's needed rank for the automatic qualifier.

My problem with these type discussions though is with the belief there even needs to be a system at all, whether BCS, playoff, or anything. Why does there have to be one national champion? Was there really something wrong with the pre-90s (pre Bowl Alliance) systems? In the end, what is really so bad about split titles? The arguments about whether Team A is really better than Team B and the bowl traditions are what make college football great. The BCS has already destroyed one of these, and a playoff would end both.
 
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Jax is correct about ND; here are the rules for ND in 2005:

"To become eligible for selection to either the Sugar, Orange or Fiesta bowls, Notre Dame (4-2) needs to finish the season with nine wins and be in the top 12 of the final BCS standings."

The rules change after this year, however.

"Beginning in 2006, Notre Dame will earn an automatic BCS berth with a top eight ranking in the final standings."
 
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Buckeyes getting computer love

During the past few weeks, the Buckeyes have hopped from the forties to #5 in the Marsee poll and to #5 in the Sagarins (although only #16 in the ELO that goes into the BCS). Our strength of schedule is now #2 in both polls, behind TSUN.

Texas is ranked #1/2 in Sagarin's/Marsee and Penn State #4 in both.

I think the models have rewarded points on the board this week and I hope that Coach Tressel is factoring that into the equation the rest of the season. Both systems now have us beating Minnesota, which was not the case previously.

Computer love could boost us in the BCS and maybe affect the coaches poll. If we win out, we will have a very good computer ratings component.
 
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