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Fallacy of the transitive property in football

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Yeah, transitive property means horseshit in college football, but it gets thrown around an awful lot. I can't say I'd want to be a voter in the playoff given the circumstances, college football is tough to weigh when you're talking team against team in a hierarchy on paper. Teams are motivated differently against different opponents. Teams like Alabama aren't as hungry after steady years of success and they often get credit for that recent success. Of course, there's also the bullshit conference perceptions as well. So much love for the SEC. They seldom will play on a freezing Midwest field in November, but many an opponents will come play them in the hot, muggy South in September. College football feels much more unpredictable than the NFL because of those factors, that's why I enjoy it.
 
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I'm hearing a lot of pundits whining that TCU shouldn't be above Baylor in the playoff race because Baylor beat TCU head-to-head.

By that logic, since West Virginia beat Baylor, the 'Eers should be in the playoffs. :ohno:
 
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MaxBuck said:
I'm hearing a lot of pundits whining that TCU shouldn't be above Baylor in the playoff race because Baylor beat TCU head-to-head.

By that logic, since West Virginia beat Baylor, the 'Eers should be in the playoffs. :ohno:
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my take is that theyre more upset TCU and Baylor arent splitting the votes allowing bama to be #4. Thus Rece Davis asking Long why TCU and Baylor arent in the same bracket (they order teams in 5 groups of 6 - thus the 'first 2 out' in ESPN graphics)


TCU has been above Baylor since the first comintern poll, and since week 9 in AP and Coaches. Nobody cared until TCU jumped 'Bama this week.
 
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THEY DID IT!

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kujirakira said:
my take is that theyre more upset TCU and Baylor arent splitting the votes allowing bama to be #4. Thus Rece Davis asking Long why TCU and Baylor arent in the same bracket (they order teams in 5 groups of 6 - thus the 'first 2 out' in ESPN graphics)


TCU has been above Baylor since the first comintern poll, and since week 9 in AP and Coaches. Nobody cared until TCU jumped 'Bama this week.
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I think the committee considers the head to head a wash since it was only by 3 points and at Baylor. Instead they looked at shared matchups. TCU went to wva and won. Baylor not so much.

Stupid, but apparently this is the system we wanted?
 
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Yeah, noticed a couple other boards have pointed out the agendas with the committees. There may be more controversy with the playoff than there was with the BCS. I still think it's going to go to 8 teams eventually though, simply because of money.
 
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woofermazing said:
I think the committee considers the head to head a wash since it was only by 3 points and at Baylor. Instead they looked at shared matchups. TCU went to wva and won. Baylor not so much.

Stupid, but apparently this is the system we wanted?
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My question is... why is anyone in the media upset about TCU being ranked over Baylor?
It's been that way in their own AP poll since week 9, as well as the Coaches poll in week 9.
It's been that way in the Committee ranking since the very first one (week 10).

So like 4 weeks or so later, TCU being ahead Baylor in every single ranking system for weeks, and suddenly the media latches onto it ? No, sorry, I'm calling bullshit.
Only thing that changed was TCU jumping Alabama for #4. There's been no argument for Bama, however... so instead they attack TCU via Baylor, wanting TCU to be ranked outside the top-6 (Rece Davis).
Prior to tonight Bama's only "good" wins were OT against LSU and a mediocre WVU. Coincidentally, both of those lost this week meaning Bama's only quality win now is Miss St.
 
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