Fair Warning To All

[scott91575]

Seriously? I'm speechless. If you don't see the difference in trolling new posters and digging on big name issues, I can't help you there. You sound pretty defensive to me bro. Either way, you've been warned about what we expect and demand on BP.

Let's do a little review of the thread.

Usual basketball talk
Iona fan shows up and talks about not getting enough love from Ohio State
The guy was not even flamed. They were all legit criticisms of their board and legit reasoning for feeling confident about the game.
Two of our own got a little upset by our fans, and I honestly don't see a single post that was bad at all. At worst it was people tired of the guy continually stating how Iona was not getting any love and how he shouldn't expect any better since Iona fans were even worse about it.
I replied with a sarcastic post about what a disrespectful post would be like. It was meant as a joke, and I even clarified it as so in that post and a follow up post. In the end, it was actually rather accurate.
Many posts were made in response to their board, not the guy who posted in the thread.
Then the admin from the Gaels site showed up with flames of his own and the one guy that was here (who continually wanted some sort of love he was not getting) went nuts.
Then the full flame was on by multiple people.

That one guy, one guy mind you, had a chip on his shoulder as soon as he showed up. He wanted people on here to declare Iona some powerhouse that should be feared, not a 15 seed. People even respectfully disagreed with him, and showed how he should not expect the same since his own fanbase didn't even respect Ohio State (much, much worse that what was said in that thread towards Iona).

In the end, nothing was stated any different that what you see here when many other team's fans show up or prior to it. Hey, it's cool. I won't do that anymore. I'll even help you police such things in the future. Maybe I will start going through some threads to find inflammatory posts against other teams and their coaches. Yet I don't have all year to do it.

BTW...I think WolverineMike should bump this thread every time he posts.

edit: and no, it's not being defensive. It's pointing out the hypocrisy, something that happens all the time on here.

 

[osugrad21]

Your opinion is appreciated. Mine, and the rest of the admins, stands as stated. There is our little review.

 

[matcar]

Hopefully this will bring in a few more outside opinions that help to keep BP fresh and avoid being insular. Glad to see this thread.

 

[scott91575]

Hopefully this will bring in a few more outside opinions that help to keep BP fresh and avoid being insular. Glad to see this thread.

I am fine with it too as long as it is applied universally.

 

[osugrad21]

I am fine with it too as long as it is applied universally.

Real simple. Be a troll...get punished as a troll. You are an intelligent and reasonable human being, you know the difference and how shallow your argument is here.

"Universally applied" is an awesome yet impossible concept. Act right and all is good. Act like a troll and you leave.

Plain enough?

 

[scott91575]

Can we at least get an exemption for pro teams. The Reds thread won't last 1 day.

 

[MD Buckeye]

Plain enough?

Can I get lettuce, mayo & pickles at least?

 

[Bestbuck36]

Can we at least get an exemption for pro teams. The Reds thread won't last 1 day.

That's different. We're all Reds fans there trolling our team. Such is our lot in life I guess. :!


I'm assuming the "Ohio State" rule is what applies. We don't bad mouth Buckeyes and we don't allow others to do so either. We also try to keep it civil with other folks until they overstay their welcome.

That's how I've always read it anyways.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Gaelsfan had a chip on his shoulder, did he?
As soon as he showed up, you say...

Greetings from New Rochelle, I see you guys are not showing the Gaels much love. A little about the Gaels. We try to run as much as possible and go as far as our 3pt shooting. We start a BCS level backcourt with Momo Jones and Sean Armand. If they are shooting well we can give teams fits. For a mid major we actually have quite a few BCS level recruits who transferred in but we are playing a little short due to losing a 6'9'' center and 6'5'' wing player to injury and mid season transfer. Never know which Iona team will show up. Last years NCAA game against BYU is proof of that, I am sure you all remember we had a 25 pt lead in the first half and fell flat in the 2nd half and blew the game. We were hoping to be placed in Philly and take our chances with Georgetown but instead got a real bad break by playing what amounts to a road game against OSU. Anyway hoping for a good game. Going back to our Valvano days all we can do is "dare to dream"

But hey, you're right ... he did say we weren't showing the Gaels much love.

His second post:

Yeah our leading scorer is Momo Jones. He was the starting PG for Arizona 2 years ago when they made it to the elite 8. Craft without a doubt will be the best defender he has faced at least the 2 years he has been at Iona. To be honest this is not the matchup we wanted. We thought we would get a 14 seed. Sean Armand is a great 3 pt shooter and also averages 17/game. The things we have going for us is that we do have a lot of BCS level players who transferred to Iona and this team has shown a lot of toughness. We need to shoot lights out and for OSU to be off their game or looking ahead, somehow be in the game midway thru the second half and see what happens. Really just hoping for a competitive game

We need OSU to be off their game... yeah.. really chippy, that one...

Post 3:

Jones played the entire tournament sick with a fever. Quite frankly the only way for Iona to stay close and even dream of an upset is the play of our frontcourt of Laury, Ridley and Bowman. They have to play smart and stay out of foul trouble and make shots. Our rotation is short with the loss of a 6'9'' center and 6'5'' wing who supplied toughness and another 3 point shooter who played solid defense. If nothing else Iona will come to play and will not be intimidated, what that translates to in the game remains to be seen. According to a couple of OSU posters on our board Iona should not even bother to show up. Like I said hope for a good and injury free game

Ah.. board politics... it's not like BP Posters to go over to an Iona board and impute the tone there as if indicative of the entire fanba... oh.. wait... bad example..

BN27 says something about "no offense, but you guys are a 15..."

No offense taken or anger at all. But the 15 seeds have pride also and know this could be a once in a lifetime chance at something special. I am sure Duke-Lehigh and Norfolk St.-Missouri felt the same way last season and we all know what happened. Not predicting an Iona win at all, in fact as I stated earlier this was a real bad matchup for Iona, but the games are played on the court not on paper.

Back to this guy's inherent chippiness...

Lol, actually that is what Iona is hoping for. Jones is relentless driving to the basket throwing up crazy shots at times but he is strong and draws a lot of fouls. Last time I checked he led the country in foul shots made. Believe me I understand it was against teams that are far inferior to OSU, we are just hoping for the refs to call the game tight. We need every advantage we can get.

Wait... "We need every advantage we can get." Mayybe not so chippy after all..

Continuing on....

Easy guys, not looking for love or respect on this board. All boards have members that will post idiotic comments, I cant control some on our board. A lot of OSU fans have posted on the Iona board which has led to good conversation over the game Friday night. I understand your mindset about Iona since a program like OSU goes into the tourney looking for a national championship. As far as Iona is concerned this weekend is like our final four. Friday night primetime on CBS against one of the top teams in the country. If we were somehow to pull this game out it probably go down as the biggest win in the history of Iona's program. Iona will have to hit their threes to stay close and hope the refs call the game tight. As far as respect hoping to gain some by being competitive Friday night.

Opposing fan being ribbed... taking it fine... Still trying to talk about the game, mentioning board politics... And yet, still stating outwardly the stars have to align for Iona....

....

and then... things go south...

I don't know.. seems AKAK was right, some folks trying pretty hard to spike the football....

 

[LitlBuck]

Gaelsfan had a chip on his shoulder, did he?
As soon as he showed up, you say...



But hey, you're right ... he did say we weren't showing the Gaels much love.

His second post:



We need OSU to be off their game... yeah.. really chippy, that one...

Post 3:


Ah.. board politics... it's not like BP Posters to go over to an Iona board and impute the tone there as if indicative of the entire fanba... oh.. wait... bad example..

BN27 says something about "no offense, but you guys are a 15..."



Back to this guy's inherent chippiness...



Wait... "We need every advantage we can get." Mayybe not so chippy after all..

Continuing on....



Opposing fan being ribbed... taking it fine... Still trying to talk about the game, mentioning board politics... And yet, still stating outwardly the stars have to align for Iona....

....

and then... things go south...

I don't know.. seems AKAK was right, some folks trying pretty hard to spike the football....

I don't know maybe I am misreading your post but I did not find any thing wrong with his original four posts at all and, in fact, I think I responded to all four of them. I saw nothing wrong with his first four posts at all. Maybe he got worse after I left the board for the evening.

 

[scott91575]

Gaelsfan had a chip on his shoulder, did he?
As soon as he showed up, you say...



But hey, you're right ... he did say we weren't showing the Gaels much love.

His second post:



We need OSU to be off their game... yeah.. really chippy, that one...

Post 3:


Ah.. board politics... it's not like BP Posters to go over to an Iona board and impute the tone there as if indicative of the entire fanba... oh.. wait... bad example..

BN27 says something about "no offense, but you guys are a 15..."



Back to this guy's inherent chippiness...



Wait... "We need every advantage we can get." Mayybe not so chippy after all..

Continuing on....



Opposing fan being ribbed... taking it fine... Still trying to talk about the game, mentioning board politics... And yet, still stating outwardly the stars have to align for Iona....

....

and then... things go south...

I don't know.. seems AKAK was right, some folks trying pretty hard to spike the football....

It was the whole no love thing and 2 people who were Buckeye posters claiming Mike was being an asshole and that guy was getting disrespected. It is a legit point to state how 15 seeds are often not very good teams. No one called the guy names or an idiot, although Mike did say Iona was slightly better than Walsh. Yet that was not directed at that one poster. It was in response to the Iona boards. Mike did not call that guy out in any way (unless I missed something).

Then, in response to those posts, I did make a sarcastic response stating what a flame would be. In other words, the thread was really not that bad at all.

The rest were in response to their board talking about Ohio State (which was pointed out multiple times), not directed at that poster. It was no different than any of the other stuff you see here concerning other schools, and it was not directed at that one poster. I think this is the big disconnect here. The inflammatory posts were not meant for that guy in the thread, and that stuff is on this board all over the place. Then that guy went ape bleep, and you know why? Because he accused us of tweeting players on their team. Why did you stop before posting that? The guy was a nut, came here hoping for some sort of agreement that Iona is actually a good team, didn't get it, then went crazy over some tweets on the internet that had nothing to do with anyone in the thread. His stuff was fine except for the whole "no love thing," which people respectfully disagreed with. Nothing was really directed at him except some posts disagreeing with some of his assessment, and I did make a sarcastic post of what flaming would be. All the rest is something you see on here all the time towards other schools. Like I stated, I am fine with this as long as it is followed across all threads.

In all honestly, some people got worked up because it was poor little Iona. In the end, those people are the ones truly flaming. You look down on them with contempt not even worthy of the usual stuff we say about teams Ohio State competes with. Heck, just check out the times Ohio State plays Miami or Ohio in football. So it's not even big teams, but for some reason Iona gets a break?

Plus, how can you differentiate anything out to prior and after trolling. Apparently our posts not directed at him and random people on twitter is what set him off. Why is he not a troll but opposing team's fans that show up in the other inflammatory threads are? The only difference is he showed up before those posts happened. If he was only a little later, he would have been a troll from the start just like the others. Then maybe the mods here would have found out personal information about him, post it on here, and encourage people to sent him information containing pornography or other embarrassing materials. Yeah, friendly environment indeed.

 

[Bestbuck36]

I don't know maybe I am misreading your post but I did not find any thing wrong with his original four posts at all and, in fact, I think I responded to all four of them. I saw nothing wrong with his first four posts at all. Maybe he got worse after I left the board for the evening.

I think that was the point homey.

 

[scott91575]

That's different. We're all Reds fans there trolling our team. Such is our lot in life I guess. :!


I'm assuming the "Ohio State" rule is what applies. We don't bad mouth Buckeyes and we don't allow others to do so either. We also try to keep it civil with other folks until they overstay their welcome.

That's how I've always read it anyways.

Yet if an outsider showed up (just like an opposing team's fan) it would be some pretty bad stuff. They wouldn't really know any better, and it has happened from time to time.

 

[Roundabout]

One thing that rubbed me wrong was folks going to the other teams board and saying how bad OSU was being treated there and they came back with an attitude that it was open season on them... (the they started it line).

Show class towards everybody unless they are jerks in your own house has always been my MO to live by, makes life a bit easier.

Every Forum I read and post in lives by different rules and this one is one of the best college ones I read (unless your a Mich fan, which with that rivalry is to be expected)

 

[scott91575]

Real simple. Be a troll...get punished as a troll. You are an intelligent and reasonable human being, you know the difference and how shallow your argument is here.

"Universally applied" is an awesome yet impossible concept. Act right and all is good. Act like a troll and you leave.

Plain enough?

I do know the difference. I am not asking for a clarification. That is why I pointed out all the other stuff that happens on this forum just like the Iona thread. I am on board. We have Michigan fans and Wisconsin fans that either post here regularly or show up from time to time. I fully expect nothing but respect shown for them, their universities, coaches, and teams or those people given infractions.