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F DeShaun "The Diesel" Thomas (Panathinaikos - Greece)

MaxBuck;2324082; said:
One other advantage of not leaving early? The degree. And if your path to the NBA isn't assured, that's a big advantage indeed.

The degree will always be there for him. He has three years worth of college credit now. You can still get a degree at 40. You probably aren't playing ball at 40.

And the thing about basketball is that the NBA is not the only avenue of decent salary for an American player. Jon Diebler made well over $100k in his first European contract. Casey Jacobsen (remember him from Stanford?) is making over $1 million/yr in Germany.

DT is giving up money by staying, regardless of whether it's in the NBA.
 
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If he is going to be a 1st round draft pick with the guaranteed money,

see: http://www.hoopsworld.com/2013-14-nba-rookie-salary-scale

I'd advise him to go; if not what is his upside? I do think that he should be able to improve (somewhat) on his defense and shooting (percentage/consistency/shot selection); however, I have no idea what the "basketball experts" think his maximum potential is.

If there are reasonable expectations for him to be able his improve his game with another year in school to be a 1st rounder (or lottery pick) it may be worth it to come back for another year?

If not, he might as well "roll the dice" and take his chances this year.

Whatever he decides I wish him well.

:osu:
 
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Colvinnl;2324084; said:
He can always come back and get his degree...or finish it in the summer.
Degrees are so much harder to complete when you don't continue all the way through.

Wish him well regardless of the decision, but if first round is unlikely, I think sticking around and finishing is a good idea.
 
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The Thomas watch

Thomas was named to the 10-man Wooden All-American team and voted a third-team Associated Press All-American yesterday. He has a year of eligibility remaining but is expected to forgo it and make himself available for the NBA draft. For one, he has a 1-year-old son to help support. For another, he?ll never play the small forward position at Ohio State that he will as a pro, so why come back? He might be a second-round draft pick, depending how his workouts go, but he?ll get paid by somebody next season. Matta said on WBNS radio last night that he probably will meet with Thomas today and ?try to map something out for him.? An NCAA rule that took effect last year prevents players who have declared for the draft from changing their mind after April 16.

http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/con...ing-to-be-priority-in-buckeyes-offseason.html
 
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Deshaun wrote this to the Lantern (it's not about his future). Love this kid!!
As a basketball player at Ohio State, I am both proud and honored that our university follows our sport the way they do. It is a privilege to play for Ohio State, to be a part of winning the Big Ten Tournament this year, and to have made it to the Elite Eight.
I know that athletes in other sports that do not get much press coverage are also winning championships. Just two weekends ago, Logan Stieber won his second-consecutive national championship in his weight class in wrestling, and senior Marco Canevari marked the Scarlet and Gray?s single individual champion title in fencing by securing the gold medal in men?s epee on March 22. A day later, gymnasts Sarah Miller and Aly Marohn captured the Big Ten championship on the balance beam.
Last Tuesday, The Lantern featured an article in which athletic director Gene Smith talked about how Ohio State isn?t just a football school. He talked about the success of our basketball team. It would be good to remember that in the other sports, there is a lot of success too.
All athletes at Ohio State work very hard at being the best they can be at their sport. I wish that all athletes could receive the attention that our football and basketball teams get. They all deserve to be celebrated.
Deshaun Thomas
Third-year in sports management
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/04/21109/youre-pretty-classy-deshaun-thomas
 
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It's interesting to me that with some players, scouts seem myopic about their limitations and with others, they're myopic about perceived potential.

DeShaun has demonstrated that he can score against anyone. His defensive "liabilities" have largely been overblown. As I said elsewhere, Thomas will make some GM look really, really smart whenever he ultimately is drafted.
 
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MaxBuck;2324462; said:
It's interesting to me that with some players, scouts seem myopic about their limitations and with others, they're myopic about perceived potential.

DeShaun has demonstrated that he can score against anyone. His defensive "liabilities" have largely been overblown. As I said elsewhere, Thomas will make some GM look really, really smart whenever he ultimately is drafted.

I agree. It isn't apples to apples, but if CJ Miles can stay in the league, I don't see any reason why DeShaun can't be a really good 7th-8th man to bring a scoring punch to the second unit.

Especially in today's NBA when so many teams are utilizing a "small-ball" line-up due to the lack of quality centers. Any good coach/GM is going to recognize they can pick their spots with DeShaun based on the opponent they are playing, and steal minutes by cross matcing him against poor offensive players (either the SF/PF). DeShaun is absolutely the type of player that good GM's who consistently stay at the top of the league, swindle from the rest of the league. As Chad Ford gauges the temperature in regards to DeShaun, do you think Sam Presti is going to volunteer they'd love him at 29 or in the mid-second?

I really hope he comes back, but those who say he doesn't gain much from it, I agree 100%. The kid is a fantastic scorer with limitations. The limitations he can work on, really aren't worth coming back for because they'll never be strong enough to move him up the board. This years draft is weak, next years is supposed to be loaded, and I really think whatever team takes him is going to realize quickly, this kid is going to be a great 7th - 8th guy off the bench where teams notoriously struggle with having enough scoring.
 
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MaxBuck;2324462; said:
It's interesting to me that with some players, scouts seem myopic about their limitations and with others, they're myopic about perceived potential.

DeShaun has demonstrated that he can score against anyone. His defensive "liabilities" have largely been overblown. As I said elsewhere, Thomas will make some GM look really, really smart whenever he ultimately is drafted.

It's funny to think that if OSU had lost to Syracuse last year, DT would probably have left to be a first round pick. Everyone was infatuated with him after those 4 scintillating games in the tournament last year.
 
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MaxBuck;2324462; said:
It's interesting to me that with some players, scouts seem myopic about their limitations and with others, they're myopic about perceived potential.

DeShaun has demonstrated that he can score against anyone. His defensive "liabilities" have largely been overblown. As I said elsewhere, Thomas will make some GM look really, really smart whenever he ultimately is drafted.
The one thing that I didn't realize about DT is that he really has no handle whatsoever. He tried to push the ball up court twice against Wichita and it resulted in two turnovers, bad ones. Personally if I was an NBA GM I would not take him. If I was a college coach I take him every day of the week because he is a top 15 college player. He is strictly a catch and shoot player and a 35% 3pt catch and shoot player at that. Just doesn't translate to the NBA.
 
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