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EA Sports Lawsuit with former Nebraska QB Sam Keller

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BuckeyeNation27;1462972; said:
So what should an individual player get?
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I s'pose what this Keller guy wants is for NCAA athletes to have the right to license their own image, whether that is retroactive to when he played may complicate things...

I have no idea how a 'stipend' type system would work, as fanatic pointed out, do you compensate the rowing team? How about the Tulane FB team? It wouldn't work if the Ohio State players got compensated based on their revenue generating power - then the NCAA landscape would look like MLB. :paranoid:

All I'm pointing out is, that as $$ continues to snowball around college athletics, esp FB and BB, than the purity of the amateur sport becomes more tainted, imo. This lawsuit has the potential to upset the apple cart, as it were.
 
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FCollinsBuckeye;1462978; said:
I s'pose what this Keller guy wants is for NCAA athletes to have the right to license their own image, whether that is retroactive to when he played may complicate things...

I have no idea what a 'stipend' type system would work, as fanatic pointed out, do you compensate the rowing team? How about the Tulane FB team? It wouldn't work if the Ohio State players got compensated based on their revenue generating power - then the NCAA landscape would look like MLB. :paranoid:

All I'm pointing out is, that as $$ continues to snowball around college athletics, esp FB and BB, than the purity of the amateur sport becomes more tainted, imo. This lawsuit has the potential to upset the apple cart, as it were.
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why did he wait so long to say something?

until he was out of college and failed at pro football?

seems to me like hes seeking a pay day of his own
 
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So what's his goal here? If his suit is somehow successful, all that will happen is college video games will stop basing their player templates on real (if unnamed) players. It's not like this will lead to the creation of the NCAAPA or any kind of profits for players--it would only take away another source of recognition that individual players could potentially market down the line, and make the games (which will still be popular) less realistic. This nonsense won't be good for the games, the players or Sam Kellar... idiot.
 
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fanaticbuckeye;1462968; said:
I consider the free education pretty enticing. At $20,000/yr (give or take) that works out to be as much or more than what most college kids make working and going to school. I understand your obscene money being made by football and basketball, and may eventually agree with you. Where I keep getting caught up is how do you justify paying only football and basketball players and not the non-revenue generating sports. How do you compensate football and basketball players at schools where the programs dont make money?

I think I will still end up falling on the side of the current system in the end.

Sam Keller, you better stop messing around with the video games.
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2006 rose bowl pay out per team was 17 million.

that breaks down to 200,000 per schollie athlete. which is a far cry from 20k. not saying thats how it should work. but thats the type of money being thrown around and thats just ONE game. to say the 20k accurately represents the profit brought in by some of these kids is absurd at the elite level. at the smaller colleges... sure, a lot of kids are likely getting the better end of the deal. but that doesn't make his point any less valid.

buckeyemania11;1462980; said:
why did he wait so long to say something?

until he was out of college and failed at pro football?

seems to me like hes seeking a pay day of his own
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isn't that what we are all looking for? the ncaa tells him that he can not make money off his name and likeness. then turns around and does the exact same thing. im not saying i agree with him. but i certainly can't argue the hypocrisy. besides, i seem to remember one mike doss making similar statements a few years back in regards to pay.

personally i think more than a few of you are more concerned your favorite game is in danger than if he has a legit case.
 
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martinss01;1463032; said:
2006 rose bowl pay out per team was 17 million.

that breaks down to 200,000 per schollie athlete. which is a far cry from 20k. not saying thats how it should work. but thats the type of money being thrown around and thats just ONE game. to say the 20k accurately represents the profit brought in by some of these kids is absurd at the elite level. at the smaller colleges... sure, a lot of kids are likely getting the better end of the deal. but that doesn't make his point any less valid.
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The $20k was a guess at the price of education per year, not the income brought in by these kids. To use the Rose Bowl, or any other bowl game payout as representation is unfair. There are 117 teams, not all make it to a bowl game. So you are going to have to take all the bowl money, pool it together and disperse it from there. Which wont work, (a) because we are not socialist yet and (b) as FCollins stated, would turn into MLB with revenue sharing and would be no benefit to getting to BCS bowls from a $ standpoint.

Besides, we still need to address every other sport other than football and basketball.
 
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martinss01;1463032; said:
2006 rose bowl pay out per team was 17 million.

that breaks down to 200,000 per schollie athlete. which is a far cry from 20k. not saying thats how it should work. but thats the type of money being thrown around and thats just ONE game. to say the 20k accurately represents the profit brought in by some of these kids is absurd at the elite level.
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Take away the profit for the institutions and you take away their incentive to keep providing the infrastructure for the games to be played. Plus, it's not realistic to think that a merit-based pay scale would work out as well for the 85th scholarship player as a team's stars. Not a heck of a lot of these players are expecting to get more than a (possibly-expensive and more profitable than athletics) education out of the deal either, so for the majority the current system--which can finance hundreds of athletes and athletic staffers at so many schools--is working out as much on an individual level as an institutional one.
 
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BUCKYLE;1462852; said:
BP rule: Do not talk about hot chick without posting pictures. Fucking jerk.

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Yeah, knowing he's banging this chick doesn't make me feel sorry for him - at all.
 
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Jake;1462707; said:
The NCAA has allowed EA Sports to create this game. The players are every bit based off the real players, and everybody knows it. The players can't license themselves in this manner but the NCAA can and profit on it?

Given the crap that finds its way into our courtrooms I have no problem with this one.
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Just where, Jake, do all those "NCAA profits" go? Primarily to the student-athletes (notably in non-revenue sports) at the member schools, and this therefore goes to the greed and unreasonableness embodied by this ridiculous lawsuit.

Surprised you of all people wouldn't tumble to this. Keller had all the advantages associated with being a star major-college QB, and failed to capitalize on them. Fuck him.
 
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