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Duke vs. North Carolina

Golferdow01;747904; said:
Easily, the only team I "hate" is Michigan. I also strongly dislike Notre Dame football for their constant overrating. Duke basketball has a good tradition under a classy coach who plays by the rules. Why hate?
Duke = Basketball version of Notre Dame
 
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jimotis4heisman;747901; said:
good thing you werent an ohio state fan during the knight era...

Bingo, and they were a huge rival of ours. That's a good reason to have a dislike. Duke has never been a rival, rarely been overrated until this year, and had a good crew of players and coaches minus Leattner.
 
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Golferdow01;747909; said:
Who told you to like them jwins? There is nothing wrong with not liking a team. Sure the media loves them just like Notre Dame football, but there is a big difference. Year in and year out Notre Dame is ranked way too high for their own good. Duke might be overrated this year, but they have always played to their ranking previously. Factor in a class coach vs the fact Notre Dame hasn't have one in decades.
Anyone can hate any team they want. Their reason does not have to be justifiable in your eyes. I guess Duke just rubs a lot people the wrong way, on top of the media love for them, it adds to a strong dislike.
 
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bigballin2987;747910; said:
Duke = Basketball version of Notre Dame

Ok, you might want to be more descriptive before you make a comment like that. For one, yes they are the same when it comes to media love. We have no disagreement there. Second, they constantly play to their rank, until this year came around. Third, Coach K is 5X the coach any of ND's football coaches have been in decades.

bigballin2987;747913; said:
Anyone can hate any team they want. Their reason does not have to be justifiable in your eyes. I guess Duke just rubs a lot people the wrong way, on top of the media love for them, it adds to a strong dislike.

No kidding, I just enjoy pointing out the fact that some people act like idiots with wreckless abandon.
 
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Golferdow01;747919; said:
No kidding, I just enjoy pointing out the fact that some people act like idiots with wreckless abandon.
looks like we found a closet dookie. yes, jwins, calm down with your wreckless (sic) abandon. :slappy: boogity-boogity. look at you with your reckless abandon. boogity-boogity.
 
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Golferdow01;747919; said:
Ok, you might want to be more descriptive before you make a comment like that. For one, yes they are the same when it comes to media love. We have no disagreement there. Second, they constantly play to their rank, until this year came around. Third, Coach K is 5X the coach any of ND's football coaches have been in decades.
Obviously there are some differences. I am referring to the fact that not matter how good or bad they are they will receive ridiculous amounts attention and are liked by very few people everywhere.
 
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OSU_Buckguy;747923; said:
looks like we found a closet dookie. yes, jwins, calm down with your wreckless (sic) abandon. :slappy: boogity-boogity. look at you with your reckless abandon. boogity-boogity.

Nope, actually I don't like them at all. I just don't hate them. Also, jwins is the only one right now who is debating with any sense.

bigballin2987;747925; said:
Obviously there are some differences. I am referring to the fact that not matter how good or bad they are they will receive ridiculous amounts attention and are liked by very few people everywhere.

I'm not sure that they are liked by very few people. I don't think you have any facts to back that up. I agree with the first 75% of your post though.
 
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Golferdow01;747938; said:
I'm not sure that they are liked by very few people. I don't think you have any facts to back that up. I agree with the first 75% of your post though.
Maybe it is where I live, but I know that most people around here are in a love/hate relationship with Duke, and that usually ends up with a lot of hate.
 
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Golferdow01;747909; said:
Sure the media loves them just like Notre Dame football, but there is a big difference.
Duke's yankee-like domination of ESPN/2 is quite annoying.

In 05, duke had 33 regular season games. 26 of those were on national TV. Doesn't that seem a tad bit excessive? Do we really need national coverage of Duke - Pennsylvania?

As far as NoD comparisons, Brent Musberger does not break into a golden-homer story every time he appears on ABC/ESPN like Mr. Vitale.
Golferdow01;747938; said:
I'm not sure that they are liked by very few people. I don't think you have any facts to back that up. I agree with the first 75% of your post though.
I think they are disliked by most average basketball fans. The fact that they are also liked by quite a few is a separate point, imo. (Similar to ND)
crazybuckfan40;747945; said:
You don't have to like them, but I think they have gained the respect of everyone...
I think it's quite possible to hate Duke with a passion while still respecting their track record and ability. I don't find that to be the case with ND, unless you are talking all-time tradition.
 
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bigballin2987;747944; said:
Maybe it is where I live, but I know that most people around here are in a love/hate relationship with Duke, and that usually ends up with a lot of hate.

Most of the people I know have enjoyed watching them play for years because of their up-tempo gameplan and good coaching. Some had a love/hate, but no more than the next team. Again, I'll use the ND football as an example. ND has begged America to hate them with their consistent underperforming and cocky coaching, one thing Duke hasn't had until this year and one thing Duke just hasn't had period.

crazybuckfan40;747945; said:
You don't have to like them, but I think they have gained the respect of everyone...

You da man cbf40 :)
 
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crazybuckfan40;747945; said:
You don't have to like them, but I think they have gained the respect of everyone...
I respect their coach and what he has done in making them good college BB players and that is about it. The players almost always flop in the NBA, their fans are particularly annoying and ESPN/Dickie V always over hypes them. I enjoy watching them lose as many games as possible.
 
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Golferdow01;747938; said:
Also, jwins is the only one right now who is debating with any sense.
cite where i (are anyone here) am acting like an "idiot with wreckless (sic) abandon." i posted...
duke, who is playing maryland right now, often looks like nothing more than just an average team. it will be a struggle for them to finish the regular season above .500.
and you followed it up in the next post with...
I find it hilarious how many of you have it in for Duke...
and you're the one telling us that we're not making sense? if posting that duke often looks like an average team and will be struggling to finish at .500 is "acting like an idiot with wreckless (sic) abandon," i find your follow-up to be hypocritical.
 
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The Man;747953; said:
I respect their coach and what he has done in making them good college BB players and that is about it. The players almost always flop in the NBA, their fans are particularly annoying and ESPN/Dickie V always over hypes them. I enjoy watching them lose as many games as possible.
You da man.
 
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jwinslow;747947; said:
)I think it's quite possible to hate Duke with a passion while still respecting their track record and ability. I don't find that to be the case with ND, unless you are talking all-time tradition.

I totally agree with this...

The thing that I truly hate is the calls that Dook seems to get, and uneeded attention, kinda like the 30 second comercials that coach K gets during the tourney...

I cannot however not respect a program that does nothing but win, don't cheat, and just continue to do it over a continued period fo time...

It is times like these that I hate being out of rep, hopefully I remember this thread when I have rep to give...
 
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