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Diet-Fitness-General Wellness Your Thoughts?

Anyone taking any HGH releasers/stimulators? If so, do you feel they work or provide any benefit? I have been reading up on them and I'm thinking about trying GenF20.

Just a quick skim at the largest active ingredients, looks like some aminos and maybe a light T booster.

Can't see what would be so special about that but, hey, different strokes for different folks.
 
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Just a quick skim at the largest active ingredients, looks like some aminos and maybe a light T booster.

Can't see what would be so special about that but, hey, different strokes for different folks.
Yes, I’m not sure about it yet. I was hoping some folks on here would have some experience thoughts with some of the options. BP is where I come for sanity checks.
 
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I lost 15 kgs (33 lbs) in six weeks. No carbs. LOTS of salads. Small pieces of fish for protein every three days. One hour of cardio training at minimum 70% of max heart rate six days a week. Adaptogens for recovery. I hate dieting, so I like to get it over quickly when things get to the point that I have to get my rear back in shape.
 
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Anyone taking any HGH releasers/stimulators? If so, do you feel they work or provide any benefit? I have been reading up on them and I'm thinking about trying GenF20.
I'd be skeptical of anything marketed as an anti-aging supplement. As far as I'm aware there's nothing in the ingredient list that would have any effect on HGH, just a bunch of amino acids.

The few people I know that have done HGH cycles (or at least the people that are open about it) have all said that generics aren't worth the time or money and the pharmaceutical route is the only way to go. I haven't tried it myself, so take that FWIW.
 
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I lost 15 kgs (33 lbs) in six weeks. No carbs. LOTS of salads. Small pieces of fish for protein every three days. One hour of cardio training at minimum 70% of max heart rate six days a week. Adaptogens for recovery. I hate dieting, so I like to get it over quickly when things get to the point that I have to get my rear back in shape.

Unless you are drastically overweight that is.... just a ridiculous and (sounds like) borderline unhealthy rate of loss.

Going completely carb free is also something I never agreed with.
 
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Unless you are drastically overweight that is.... just a ridiculous and (sounds like) borderline unhealthy rate of loss.

Going completely carb free is also something I never agreed with.

The low-carb diet has just been the subject of an international court debate in South Africa after the nutritional community tried to silence the great sports scientist Professor Tim Noakes (e.g., chase some of the evidence referred to by this blogger https://www.news24.com/MyNews24/On-Tim-Noakes-and-Bullsht-20140113, or follow the case reporting. Here is an American blogger commenting on the repulsive attacks by carb-based food manufacturers, who had their arses handed to them. http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/timnoakes/

Noakes was angry at the attempts to smear his reputation and invited the world's leading sports scientists and nutritionists to testify. It was a slam dunk in which the evidence of meta-analytical reviews was presented. Noakes won hands down. The low carb, high fat diet of the American public before the 1950s was a much better diet than the "balanced" diet recommended today.

My diet is not at all carb free and not at all unhealthy. Carbs turn into glycogen, which eventually becomes fat. Anyone who has studied aboriginal people knows that people feast in times of plenty and lose that weight in times of scarcity. Modern life and the unhealthy "balanced" diet promoted after WWII to boost American grain exports has been a disaster in that respect.

What I have done for a short period is to become ketogenic. I lost weight the same way 20 years ago. Three of us did it and we kept the weight off for that time.

Back then, I gained weight after nearly a year of overseas travel and speeches. This time, I was unable to exercise for a year due to automobile accident injuries and surgeries and then an unexpected viral infection that required hospitalization. So, I gained the weight at the rate of about 1kg a month. I also became addicted to carbs, which can be much more addictive than many drugs. The diet helped me and I used my annual leave to get out start exercising again. The first few days of hauling my fat arse up and down the mountains was really hard. But with common sense, I set a foundation to get back into the gym and on my cycles the last six weeks.

I am in my mid-60s and still training at 130-140 heart rate for as long as two-hours in a single session. I already am back to cycling more than 100 kms a week (at about 19-20 mph, not pretty but I get there). My physicals, including brain and heart MRIs are excellent. My body fat has dropped from 28% to 19% and I feel not really much different than I did as an 18 year old.

I'll let @RugbyBuck comment on how old I look when he is here shortly. When you get to be my age and you are able to go full court for a regulation basketball game with athletes less than 35 or cycle 100 kms, then you are doing something right and I offer my experience in that vein. Of course, one should always follow a doctor's advice. That said, not all doctors agree about the diet promoted in the US, for the reasons noted above. There is absolutely no reason why you need to balance a diet in the way that we were taught in school.

Having lost the weight this time, I am on an ultra low carb diet and am quite prepared to each high fat foods. If I go to a friend's house and they are serving pasta and salad, I'll eat some of the pasta but more of the salad.

I want to lose a bit more weight and will do so in line with muscle mass gain. So I suppose that I will end up at about 16% body fat and on my target weight, which is at the high bracket of "normal" in the American weight charts developed before the 1950s. My diet would be in line with what the Prof Tim Noakes recommends, but I am not following a strict Banting diet such as he suggests.

My professor friends tell me that the Buckeye sports nutritionists put several football Buckeyes on ketogenic diets last year for over a month, by the way. What are Buckeye sports scientists saying about low carbs diets and performance? https://news.osu.edu/news/2015/11/16/against-grain/
 
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Well, some of that would happen because you are eating whole foods. I don't follow a Banting diet but what I can a "raw food diet". I eat bowls of salad the size of many portions, with some fish or nuts from time to time, but it is carb-free and low-calorie and I don't get hungry.

I do recommend that one reads Noakes. That article recommends low fat. Low fat is problematic. You get hungrier on low fat. There also are advantages in terms of the nervous system and brain function, but I leave that to others.

What I know is that I was hanging so far over my belt last year that I refused to be in pictures and covered up with black shirts and sweatshirts an sweaters to hide it. I was 40 lbs over normal weight for my height and officially obese. I don't hang over my belt anymore and I feel absolutely fantastic.

Other than that, I have no agenda here and wish everyone well.
 
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Lost over 10 pounds in a little over 6 weeks, down 3.5% body fat and up 2.5 pounds of muscle. Basically keep my calories below 1900 a day (usually more like 1500-1600 to start until I shed some weight) low carbs and fat, high protein. No meals later than 6 pm and bigger meal before the workout. Hitting some cross fit and personal training mix. Not an earth shattering routine and I have a little ways to go, but I have done it time and time again to get back into respectable shape. This time I got as overweight and out of shape as I ever have been in my life, so it has been rough getting back on the horse. But very glad I am making the effort because I feel a million times better.
 
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