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DeShaun Watson (QB Cleveland Browns)

How the fuck does that work exactly? :lol:


Goodell appoints someone to give him the punishment he wants. NFLPA sues for the original punishment in federal court. Injunction granted so Watson can play while it's in court. Browns go 9-3 in first 11 games. Court rules so Watson misses the rest of the season and the Browns miss the playoffs. Probably end up suspending him part of both seasons so the contract years count against the Browns. If it's over 6-8 games I'd rather it be the whole season so his contract just gets pushed back a year.

How is what Watson did the most egregious the NFL has ever seen? They had an owner doing the same thing and didn't punish him. How many rub and tugs has Kraft had in his life? I'm sure it wasn't the 2 they filmed him getting. I'd say Ray Rice, Big Ben, and maybe even Hunt were more egregious and I'm sure I'm missing a bunch.
 
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How is what Watson did the most egregious the NFL has ever seen? They had an owner doing the same thing and didn't punish him. How many rub and tugs has Kraft had in his life?
It seems to me the people who are the most outraged about this situation are choosing to ignore that the women in question were almost certainly sex workers who were paid to perform sexual acts on their customers.
 
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Goodell appoints someone to give him the punishment he wants. NFLPA sues for the original punishment in federal court. Injunction granted so Watson can play while it's in court. Browns go 9-3 in first 11 games. Court rules so Watson misses the rest of the season and the Browns miss the playoffs. Probably end up suspending him part of both seasons so the contract years count against the Browns. If it's over 6-8 games I'd rather it be the whole season so his contract just gets pushed back a year.

How is what Watson did the most egregious the NFL has ever seen? They had an owner doing the same thing and didn't punish him. How many rub and tugs has Kraft had in his life? I'm sure it wasn't the 2 they filmed him getting. I'd say Ray Rice, Big Ben, and maybe even Hunt were more egregious and I'm sure I'm missing a bunch.

So they're appealing to themselves. Got it.
 
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It seems to me the people who are the most outraged about this situation are choosing to ignore that the women in question were almost certainly sex workers who were paid to perform sexual acts on their customers.

Certainly in the Kraft situation. I'm less sure about Watson. I will say I knew a couple massage therapists who were wine customers of mine. They liked to talk while they drank. One was a "no way" on this kinda thing, the other ummm... Less so. (No, I had no ummm... First Hand.... Knowledge)
 
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Certainly in the Kraft situation. I'm less sure about Watson. I will say I knew a couple massage therapists who were wine customers of mine. They liked to talk while they drank. One was a "no way" on this kinda thing, the other ummm... Less so. (No, I had no ummm... First Hand.... Knowledge)
I believe he saw around 60 message therapists during that time, and 24 of them came forward to be a part of the suit. The numbers check out to me in terms of what you would expect from an industry where sex work is a strong undercurrent.

I imagine it was a pretty easy sell for the lawyer representing them, something like: “Hey, do you enjoy the aspect of your work that involves sexual activity with clients?”

“No, not really.”

“Join this civil suit then.”

“Okay.”

“Would you like to press criminal charges and open yourself and your work up to additional scrutiny.”

“No, I don’t think that’s a good idea.”

I’m not condoning his actions, but the idea that sex work isn’t a strong undercurrent in this industry that many partake in, and Watson was way out on a limb in his behavior, strikes me as disingenuous or purposefully obtuse.

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Goodell appoints someone to give him the punishment he wants. NFLPA sues for the original punishment in federal court. Injunction granted so Watson can play while it's in court. Browns go 9-3 in first 11 games. Court rules so Watson misses the rest of the season and the Browns miss the playoffs. Probably end up suspending him part of both seasons so the contract years count against the Browns. If it's over 6-8 games I'd rather it be the whole season so his contract just gets pushed back a year.

How is what Watson did the most egregious the NFL has ever seen? They had an owner doing the same thing and didn't punish him. How many rub and tugs has Kraft had in his life? I'm sure it wasn't the 2 they filmed him getting. I'd say Ray Rice, Big Ben, and maybe even Hunt were more egregious and I'm sure I'm missing a bunch.

what part of non violent sexual assault are you not comprehending? Kraft got caught for paying for the tug. Watson hunter at least 30 women and coerced or forced them to tug. Your savior at best is a sexual deviant. At worst he’s a predator. But, hey, football!!
 
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If Watson misses more than six games, he will not accrue a full season and the Browns will get him for an "extra" season. Specifically, the Browns would get Watson next year at his 2022-2023 season salary of $1 million. They could absolutely load up.

Source on this is si.com.

According to Florio on the Rich Eisen show, an appeal would still not allow Watson to play the first six games since that suspension has been agreed upon. This appeal would only impact week 7 and after.

You all might have covered this already. I didn't catch up with the chatter. Both of those topics were two questions I had about this appeal process. I think it's completely fucking ridiculous that the league and the NFLPA negotiated a deal to get an independent party involved with suspensions just for the NFL to say "lol nevermind we'll just do what we want anyways." Read that more as a critique of the NFL than a defense of Watson..
 
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I believe he saw around 60 message therapists during that time, and 24 of them came forward to be a part of the suit. The numbers check out to me in terms of what you would expect from an industry where sex work is a strong undercurrent.

I imagine it was a pretty easy sell for the lawyer representing them, something like: “Hey, do you enjoy the aspect of your work that involves sexual activity with clients?”

“No, not really.”

“Join this civil suit then.”

“Okay.”

“Would you like to press criminal charges and open yourself and your work up to additional scrutiny.”

“No, I don’t think that’s a good idea.”

I’m not condoning his actions, but the idea that sex work isn’t a strong undercurrent in this industry that many partake in, and Watson was way out on a limb in his behavior, strikes me as disingenuous or purposefully obtuse.

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Absolutely. My point was that it is for sure a thing.
 
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