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Dennis 'Dillweed' Dodd

OSUBuckeye4Life;863062; said:
I mentioned Clarity running an Ohio State website because that would raise a red flag, nothing more. Oh, and you dont get in trouble for "anonymous donations" .....especially when you aren't associated with the university (which he made clear not to be).

For the sake of not derailing this thread any further, you belive what you want. I'm not in the business of continuing to argue with people about opinions. I've made my point clear and I'll just sit back and see how many share your sentiments.........

It's not a popularity contest. It has needlessly become a real issue for OSU's compliance department. If the money comes flowing in, anonymous or not, and OSU boosters provided some of that money, OSU now has a problem. The NCAA looks at whether the school knew or should have known. Now they know.
 
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LightningRod;863071; said:
It's not a popularity contest. It has needlessly become a real issue for OSU's compliance department. If the money comes flowing in, anonymous or not, and OSU boosters provided some of that money, OSU now has a problem. The NCAA looks at whether the school knew or should have known. Now they know.

Him creating a "needless" problem doesn't mean he intentionally created that problem just to hurt Ohio State. Like it's been stated, it looks as if he was TRYING to help. I think you have a valid arguement in whether this truely helps or not, but that isn't what I was discussing.
 
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OSUBuckeye4Life;863074; said:
Him creating a "needless" problem doesn't mean he intentionally created that problem just to hurt Ohio State. Like it's been stated, it looks as if he was TRYING to help. I think you have a valid arguement in whether this truely helps or not, but that isn't what I was discussing.

Who said anything about intentionally creating a problem just to hurt Ohio State?
 
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OSUBuckeye4Life;863081; said:
Edit. I'll stop this on my end......

Bottom line....I felt he had good intentions.

I hope this helps Juan.

Oh course he had good intentions, the suggestion to the contrary is someone being "contrary". or daft... The article is about the NCAA and their assinine policies and how they should be helping kids like this considering the $billions they take in. But some people reach...and reach...and reach... Yes, please split this section off so I can continue to read such bovinity.
 
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matcar;863124; said:
Oh course he had good intentions, the suggestion to the contrary is someone being "contrary". or daft... The article is about the NCAA and their assinine policies and how they should be helping kids like this considering the $billions they take in. But some people reach...and reach...and reach... Yes, please split this section off so I can continue to read such bovinity.

EDIT - it's not worth it, but if you would like to take this up in private, have at it.
 
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Now a post on BN$$ claims that Juan left the team following the spring game and is up at U Mass. If this is true, then Dodd would/should have known this well before his article...this would sure support LightningRod's stance.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;863134; said:
Now a post on BN$$ claims that Juan left the team following the spring game and is up at U Mass. If this is true, then Dodd would/should have known this well before his article...this would sure support LightningRod's stance.

In what way?

The underlying point of Dodd's article would still be the same.

All it would prove to me is that Dodd is going off the same information the rest of us are.....that he is a Buckeye right now. If not it would probably be news to him, as it would to 90% of us here.
 
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OSUBuckeye4Life;863142; said:
In what way?

The underlying point of Dodd's article would still be the same.

OH, and what would that point be? Dodd didn't seem so moved about OSU's plight when the Buckeyes were spanked for O'Brien's $6K generosity to a foreign player whose family was in dire straits in a war torn country and who was never going to play one second of college ball in the USA or anywhere else. Yet here Dodd is openly soliciting for donations and imploring OSU fans to do so anonymously. Dodd would be the 1st to scream from the mountaintops that the Buckeye program needs beheaded if the money started flowing. Enough with the philanthropist Dodd.

Did Dodd really have these nice things to say about OSU under similar circumstances

March 10, 2006
By Dennis Dodd
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer
Tell Dennis your opinion!



INDIANAPOLIS -- There was something very close to celebration by Ohio State at Conseco Fieldhouse on Friday afternoon. It had little -- very little -- to do with actual basketball.

The Buckeyes left the building with their school on the hook for what could be more than $10 million in restitution to the NCAA and its former basketball coach.

A year after removing itself from the NCAA Tournament, the school was sweating out a second-consecutive NCAA-imposed ban Friday that could have wrecked a recruiting class and perhaps driven its coach to Indiana.

"A blatant violation," said NCAA infractions committee vice chair Josephine Potuto, summarizing the school's long, arduous extra benefits case involving two international recruits.

"Especially troubling," she added.

Celebration? The NCAA announced an hour before game time at the Big Ten Tournament that Ohio State had escaped major sanctions. After the Bucks' quarterfinal victory over Penn State, a savvy broker could have scalped confetti.

Reality was hidden in a corner. The school that is tied for the fifth-most major infractions in NCAA history -- same as Alabama, one more than Notre Dame -- got Big Haircut No. 4.

Except the NCAA stowed the guillotine this time. Oh, there's plenty of dirt -- a massive 64 pages of it in the infractions report -- but Ohio State got to keep its head.

For those of you Bucknuts who didn't have the time or interest in sifting through it all, let's summarize: Your Big Ten champs are free to go to the NCAA Tournament, possibly as a No. 1 seed, while looking forward to perhaps the best recruiting class since Michigan's Fab Five.

You get to keep second-year coach Thad Matta, who made rumblings about bolting for his dream job at Indiana if the NCAA dropped the hammer.

That's all that really matters, right?

Why, though, does this keep happening to Ohio State? This makes two major basketball cases in 12 years. This latest one features $6,000 paid to a foreign recruit by former coach Jim O'Brien. Answer - because of bozos like Dodd

But the report also includes the $500 quarterback Troy Smith took from a booster. There's almost $14,000 in free or discounted orthodontic care for five women's basketball players. The obvious conclusion: Ohio State had better teeth than institutional control.

We haven't even mentioned the stain left by tailback/robbery suspect Maurice Clarett.

"This is not a systemic problem," athletic director Gene Smith said.

Yeah, Gene, it kind of is. And we're not blaming you one bit. Having been at the school barely a year, you inherited this mess. But it helped drive your predecessor, Andy Geiger, to retirement.

And there is a pattern. Presidents and ADs change, the mentality doesn't.

All you need is good legal counsel, which Ohio State apparently has. To stay ahead of the NCAA police, Ohio State removed a 20-12 team last year from tournament consideration. Then hoped that was good enough.

Smith put the probability of playing on at more than 90 percent, "but you never can be sure. I was a little concerned about that."

"If they weren't going to let these guys go," Matta said after the Penn State game, "there were going to be 66 teams in the NCAA Tournament this year. We were going to play somebody.

"It would have been a devastating blow."

Devastation is relative when you consider how the school got to this point. O'Brien's name is mud right now on the Columbus campus. He put the school through a hell way beyond the burning fires stoked by Clarett. If O'Brien ever works at the NCAA level again, it will be at least five years from now after he got the dreaded show-cause penalty.

You'll be reading about Paul Biancardi's firing any day now. O'Brien's former assistant, now the coach at Wright State, was dealt a unique penalty Friday. The NCAA said Biancardi can't recruit for the next 19 months after what he did at Ohio State.

How does a school continue to employ a head coach who can't recruit?

Last month, a supposedly sober judge ruled that Ohio State couldn't fire O'Brien for paying the recruit. O'Brien had sued the university for $3.5 million. If a judge with more sense isn't found, the school could be on the hook for a reported $9 million with interest and penalties.

Strike what we said about good legal counsel.

Here's the ultimate irony: Matta is trying to match the accomplishments of one of the most reviled figures in school history.

In the middle of the mess, O'Brien took the Bucks to the 1999 Final Four.

Love the banner, hate the coach? Can't even do that. As part of the penalties, Ohio State must remove the 1999-2002 tournament appearances from a banner in Value City Arena. That, and pay back the NCAA $800,000 earned from those appearances.

"The one thing I've learned through this whole process is how cutthroat some people can be in this business," Matta said.

O'Brien and Biancardi stonewalled. They argued that the NCAA's statute of limitations had run out on the violations. But the misconduct was so heinous that the NCAA revoked the statute, saying it was a "pattern of continuing conduct."

However, the throat cuts both ways. What does it say about a coach who might have been ready to bail -- recruiting class in tow -- if Ohio State got another postseason ban?

Matta sent his recruits letters allowing them out of their letters of intent if that happened.

That is the value of the "Thad Five" that includes local Lawrence North High teammates Greg Oden and Mike Conley.

The preseason perception was that this was a transition year with the monster recruits coming in. The reality was four glossed-over seniors leading the Bucks to an outright conference title.

"Once he signed this mega-class, people kind of overlooked us," said senior Terence Dials, the Big Ten Player of the Year. "We want to go out there and prove a lot of people wrong.

"You have the No. 1 player in the nation coming in (Oden). The class should get its due, but not right now. Wait until the summer before you start talking about the class."

In that way, Ohio State's fans are no different than any other school's. They're always looking ahead, to the horizon for the next big thing, be it Maurice Clarett, Jim O'Brien or a break from the NCAA.

One out of three ain't bad.
 
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LightningRod;863145; said:
OH, and what would that point be? Dodd didn't seem so moved about OSU's plight when the Buckeyes were spanked for O'Brien's $6K generosity to a foreign player whose family was in dire straits in a war torn country and who was never going to play one second of college ball in the USA or anywhere else. Yet here Dodd is openly soliciting for donations and imploring OSU fans to do so anonymously. Dodd would be the 1st to scream from the mountaintops that the Buckeye program needs beheaded if the money started flowing. Enough with the philanthropist Dodd.

So now you want to argue with me about what issues Dodd decides to take a stance with? No thanks.

Also that has NOTHING to do with the post you quoted that was in regard to something Milliani posted.

Anyway....there is another Garnier story by Dodd:

Link

Yamileth Garnier always wanted to see snow.
She was 26 in 1978, carefree, working for the Costa Rican government in the immigration department. Someone suggested Boston. Go for a month. Get your freeze on.

That was her first mistake. The number of Costa Rican women in their prime longing to visit the frigid Northeast could barely fill a phone booth.
Even fewer time it this badly. Snow? Not only did she see it, she was trapped by it. Yamileth arrived around the time of infamous Blizzard of '78 that dumped 27 inches on the city. Slush, though, was the least of her worries. Continued........
 
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OSUBuckeye4Life;863146; said:
So now you want to argue with me about what issues Dodd decides to take a stance with? No thanks.

Also that has NOTHING to do with the post you quoted that was in regard to something Milliani posted.

Anyway....there is another Garnier story by Dodd:

Link

You are the one stating that you know Dodd's intentions. I have no idea what his intentions are. All I know is what he published concerning OSU on two separate occasions that appear to be very inconsistent. He takes the Buckeyes to task when $6K is given to a foreigner whose family was destitute and living in a war ravaged country. In Juan's case, he openly advocates the delivery of anonymous donations knowing full well that this is an NCAA no-no. In the first instance he questions the integrity of OSU's athletic programs for the $6K generosity. The second case has not yet come to fruition, but knowing the great philanthropist that Dodd is based on his comments concerning O'Brien's generosity, I don't expect that leopard to change his spots. Dodd could very well have known that Juan was gone to UMASS and intended to hit the Buckeye faithful up for a few pesos as a going away gift.

I also read comments submitted by Juan's former roommate immediately after Dodd's piece. So what does one make of that? Don't know. Don't know what his intentions were. However, Dodd has shown his colors once in the recent past. And based on his past actions under similar circumstances, he would be the 1st to scream for OSU sanctions.
 
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OSUBuckeye4Life;863216; said:
That is because it's farily obvious.

Yes, it is fairly obvious that he is soliciting people to send anonymous donations to Juan's family knowing full well some Buckeye fans will do just that and knowing full well that it will violate NCAA by-laws. But hey, since we all know what his intentions are, then his next intention is to scold OSU fans for skirting NCAA rules and calling for a housecleaning just as he did when O'Brien gave a foreigner $6K to help his family out in a war ravaged Bosnia.
 
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Hey Stretch Armstrong, I mean Lightning Rod, give it a rest man. Im no fan of Dodd either but lets not lose our marbles. Its 10:30pm est, the sun has gone down, take off the scarlet tinted glasses...not everyones out to get us.
 
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