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Denard "LLL" Robinson (an excellent driver)

cincibuck;2346425; said:
...Asking an armature to do so is an entirely different matter...
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BIGBLUEHART;2346329; said:
Would have to be an idiot to believe that He was a good QB, but Denard holds a special place in Michigan fans heart for making Our games watchable in the darkest years of our program. When RR was fired He held a team meeting and took the team on his back, his message stay hungry and keep fighting together as team no matter who the new coach is we have eachother and we can do this together. So that's where the eating thing comes from. Reguardless of what he did and who he did it against he is a true wolverine and I will always be greatful that he was a wolverine.(greased up or not)

Robinson appeared at first glance to be twirling his index finger around his ear to me as if to signify he and his teammates were crazy, or something to that effect, after rumbling in for touchdowns in recent weeks.

But that was not the case after all, as explained by Robinson in Monday's Detroit Free Press report online. After scoring TD's the UM players celebrate by pretending to spoon food into their mouths, Robinson noted.
The program has been "starving" for a while for a taste of the big time as Robinson said, but now it is time to eat.


http://news.yahoo.com/denard-robinsons-td-celebrations-explained-fans-175610573.html

Here's a linked story that suggests something different... Where's your link?
 
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cincibuck;2346425; said:
3. Like him or not, Like Michigan or not, Robinson put up impressive career numbers playing approximately the same level of competition that Ohio State played. I don't see how you can knock his record without demeaning the Buckeyes at the same time.

Pardon me for interrupting your defense of Denard and your looking the other way when it comes to, you know, how Michigan actually fared against the better teams in that "same level of competition," but during Denard's four years, Michigan had the following records against the following teams:

1-3 vs. Ohio State
1-3 vs. Michigan State
0-2 vs. Wisconsin
0-2 vs. Penn State
1-3 vs. Iowa
1-1 vs. Nebraska

The thought that Denard "put up impressive career numbers" ignores the fact that he fattened up his stats on the Big Ten also-rans, and was wholly unable to lead his team to anything resembling respectability against teams with a pulse.
 
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cincibuck;2346425; said:
1. Keeping a player in a game is not necessarily a positive. In the case you mention you seem to be saying it's good to put a possible NFL career on the line to play hurt. Allowing a pro, or asking a pro, to do that is one thing.

RGIII. All I'm going to say is, he was injured before the 1st quarter was done. Definitely should have been pulled out by halftime.....destroyed any chance of playing for the rest of the year by playing in the third. (meaning if somehow they would have won, he might have been able to play the next game)
 
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WolverineMike;2346475; said:
while that is a paltry record, no way in hell am I putting all that on Denards shoulders. I'd love to see the average points scored against Michigan in all those losses. I'd be willing to wager they were almost all 30+ points

Against Ohio State, in the losses, Michigan scored:
2009 - 10
2010 - 7
2012 - 21

Michigan State (losses only)
2009 - 20
2010 - 17
2011 - 14

Pedophile State
2009 - 10
2010 - 35

Iowa
2009 - 28
2010 - 28
2011 - 16

Nebraska
2012- 9

Wisconsin
2009 - 24
2010 - 28

One time did Michigan score more than 30.
 
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I can't believe people are still trying to rationalize this little punk. It's as simple as this;

-3 games vs OSU he loses, tapping out of each one.

-1 game vs the worst OSU team of the last 20 years and he somehow finds the strength to stay in the game and taunt.

That's a front running punk. I don't know how it could be any clearer.
 
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Jaxbuck;2346494; said:
I can't believe people are still trying to rationalize this little punk. It's as simple as this;

-3 games vs OSU he loses, tapping out of each one.

-1 game vs the worst OSU team of the last 20 years and he somehow finds the strength to stay in the game and taunt.

That's a front running punk. I don't know how it could be any clearer.

+1 ^
 
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I see I misunderstood Mike's post - he wanted to know average points scored against, not points Michigan put up. I'm not gonna go re-do the stassen inquiry, but he's probably right about 30+ in most those games as scored by Michigan opponents.

In any case, looking at the points Michigan scored, it's clear that the untied shoelaces, front running, tap out bitch was..... umm...

ineffective.

At best.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;2346491; said:
Against Ohio State, in the losses, Michigan scored:
2009 - 10
2010 - 7
2012 - 21

Michigan State (losses only)
2009 - 20
2010 - 17
2011 - 14

Pedophile State
2009 - 10
2010 - 35

Iowa
2009 - 28
2010 - 28
2011 - 16

Nebraska
2012- 9

Wisconsin
2009 - 24
2010 - 28

One time did Michigan score more than 30.


I believe what he was asking for was the average points scored by scUM's opponents in the losses, not for scUM's points scored.
 
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Buckeye Maniac;2346504; said:
I believe what he was asking for was the average points scored by scUM's opponents in the losses, not for scUM's points scored.

Buckeyeskickbuttocks;2346501; said:
I see I misunderstood Mike's post - he wanted to know average points scored against, not points Michigan put up. I'm not gonna go re-do the stassen inquiry, but he's probably right about 30+ in most those games as scored by Michigan opponents.

In any case, looking at the points Michigan scored, it's clear that the untied shoelaces, front running, tap out bitch was..... umm...

ineffective.

At best.

I barely beat you to the correction :wink2:
 
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WolverineMike;2346475; said:
while that is a paltry record, no way in hell am I putting all that on Denards shoulders. I'd love to see the average points scored against Michigan in all those losses. I'd be willing to wager they were almost all 30+ points

Wait a minute. Normally I think you unfairly get the point end of the stick on this board, and I like that you don't let it bother you. I hope this doesn't bother you, either. But an argument I hear M*ch*gan fans throw out in defense of Rich Rod's terrible defenses (somewhere I saw the stat that his teams gave up more points in under 3 years than Bo Schembechler's did in his first 10 years) was something like, "but we score so fast the other team gets the ball sooner and more often - that's why we give up more points!"

So the offense was the reason the defense was so bad.
And now you say the defense was the reason the record was so bad against "quality" opponents.

I wouldn't put M*ch*gan's terrible record against those opponents on Denard's shoulders, either. I wouldn't argue against that he was the brightest lightbulb on the string of burned-out lightbulbs. But he tapped out early and often - that is inarguable. Whether he COULD have played - that's up for debate. If he truly got hurt against all of those defenses, it will be interesting to see him get hit in the NFL. If he was just wussing out against Big Ten defenses, how much will he be able to play in the NFL?
 
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