A lot of that PSU tradition has to do with JoPa. When he is gone, he's going to take some of the luster away from PSU. Even though I think that luster is already gone. I just don't think getting rid of JoPa is going to be a quick fix for Penn State. I think that was one place where JoPa was bigger than the school. Now, with him gone...you've just got the school...and that's not as nice. It's going to take awhile for this program to get back on its feet. Schools like Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, USC...those schools are always going to be above the men who coach there. I just think Penn State is getting a taste of what life without Jo Pa is going to be like...even though he hasn't left yet. They will have good seasons, and will have bad seasons. But a JoPaless Penn State will never recruit as well as Ohio State, scUM, and Notre Dame. And those 3 schools will steal a lot of players from Penn State. Yet Penn State isn't going to steal any palyers from Indiana, Ohio, and TSUN.