cincibuck;2175937; said:
Gee, --no pun intended-- sounds like a very familiar story, like a former president of OSU who tried to bring in some control over tailgating...
Football fans don't want to hear that a) their behavior is a problem b) that it's a problem for the university.
Lemme 'splain something to you.
See... administrators... most places are trying to reign in the off campus party culture. Also, let's be clear that it was grown ups that were pissed off at Holbrook for trying to reign in tailgaiting... shit, it was Gee that pretty much colluded with campus partners to shut down the entire south campus bar scene and don't tell my Papa Joe's wasn't an inside job (and a terrible April Fools Joke IIRC) but I don't see the anger directed at him...
Now, having said that... in addition to the Campus Partners debacle, there over time, been other constant efforts to do such.
Now, you do this at Ohio State.. sure, people get crannky and adapt... same in Athens... Madison.. and other even somewhat more notorious party schools...
Here's all I'm gonna say, long ago, when I was a frat boy and transferred to Ohio State... from OU... (yeah, fuck off), and I had been around the Big Ten block a few times... I walk into the house after being gone for something for a few days and the President says, "Hey Mike, the Penn State guys are coming out this weekend, should be fun"
Who? You're not serious, are you? Why didn't you ask me about this first?
So, I pretty much tell him to lock up everything, because he's just invited 40 asshole locusts.
Seriously, I've dealt with every kind of drunk neanderthal... and no knock to our SEC friends... but, the Penn State drunk is sort of like an Alabama or LSU inebriated depraved freak with the superior attitude of... well, they couldn't fake Harvard snobbiness... more like a Jersey Shore kid that thinks he knows what snobbery really is, but with an SEC IQ. I mean, that Urine chucking video isn't the exception to the rule... think about it... you have to prepare in advance to have urine fille balloons to chuck... this is how they think... I went to parties makign sure my lighter was operational and had an extra pack of smokes, not thinking, well, I may have to piss in some balloons and chuck it.
I'd try to explain more... but, hey, read the rest of this thread.
I've commented on all this stuff in the past...