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TheIronColonel said:
Vernon Gholston No. 1 disappointment for Jets this pre-season

Why would anyone ever want to play any sport in New York? The media there are ridiculous. They draft a guy and make him change positions (and systems), then get upset that there's a learning curve. Ridiculous. Vern should have just held out all year and signed with a different team. Fuck New York and their retarded media hacks.
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ever seen what its like to win in new york?

wasnt that the crticism of vernon all along? in college, at the draft...
 
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TheIronColonel;1241853; said:
Vernon Gholston No. 1 disappointment for Jets this pre-season

Why would anyone ever want to play any sport in New York? The media there are ridiculous. They draft a guy and make him change positions (and systems), then get upset that there's a learning curve. Ridiculous. Vern should have just held out all year and signed with a different team. Fuck New York and their retarded media hacks.
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Ask Tiki Barber and Michael Strahan why anyone would want to play in NY. They have a pretty nice gig going now that they're retired.

Also, Eli Manning was awful for most of the season, now he's a fucking god.
 
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TheIronColonel;1241874; said:
Yeah, ask A-Rod how that's going. He was only the league MVP last year, but he still gets ripped. The New Yorkers don't deserve to have good teams, because they treat their players like shit.
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A-Rod is a joke. Can't hit in the clutch, and is a disgrace off the field. If I was a Yankees fan, I'd much rather have the 30 million dollars a season they're paying him than having a distraction like him on my roster.

Evidence: A-Rod is hitting .345 this season with the bases empty, and .245 this season with RISP. He's also hitting .100 with the bases loaded.
 
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A-Rod doesn't deserve the blame for them sucking. The blame goes to the front office for getting a roster full of players playing past their prime and the lack of pitching.

A-Rod carried the Yanks last year.

Hopefully Vern doesn't get rattled by the negative publicity and can keep improving. Changing positions definitely can't be easy, especially in a city where everyone seems to root against you until you win. I'm glad NY has good teams, but their fans are lame. I don't care what Rodriguez's numbers are with the bases loaded, you can't expect the guy to live up to his potential if he dreads playing at home. "Oh this guy is in a slump, let's boo him! That'll definitely make him not put pressure on himself!"

Let's hope that Vern doesn't have to worry about A-Rod's problem.
 
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As someone who's probably going to end up in New York next year about this time, and probably be a Jets fan (More than say the Giants, because Eli can suck it), i gotta say, Vern will get over this. This is the same crap that happened with Ted last year in Miami, trying to turn a tweener into a legit star. I have faith that it will happen, but probably not this year, patience is a virtue, which unfortunately is not something most New Yorkers seem to have. They have the richest teams and think they should always be able to buy success.

We in Ohio with our low budget teams and great fan bases know what being a fan is about for the most part.
 
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GoodLifeSean;1242116; said:
As someone who's probably going to end up in New York next year about this time, and probably be a Jets fan (More than say the Giants, because Eli can suck it), i gotta say, Vern will get over this. This is the same crap that happened with Ted last year in Miami, trying to turn a tweener into a legit star. I have faith that it will happen, but probably not this year, patience is a virtue, which unfortunately is not something most New Yorkers seem to have. They have the richest teams and think they should always be able to buy success.

We in Ohio with our low budget teams and great fan bases know what being a fan is about for the most part.
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Jets fans are patient. They're very used to losing. I haven't heard one Jets fan mention Gholston all preseason. And welcome to rooting for the good guys, GoodLifeSean.
 
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New York Jets not worried about Gholston's poor preseason
by Dave Hutchinson/The Star-Ledger
Friday August 29, 2008

The Jets insist there is nothing to be alarmed about with the subpar play of rookie linebacker Vernon Gholston. They say he's woefully behind after missing all of the offseason program because he couldn't report until the semester was over at Ohio State, and he'll blossom as soon as he gets up to speed.

There's one problem, however, with that argument.

Two seasons ago, center Nick Mangold, also an Ohio State product, faced the same dilemma and he had an outstanding rookie season and is now regarded as one of the rising stars at his position.

And center, like the linebacker/defensive end position played by Gholston, is a thinking man's position. Mangold had to learn to read complicated and ever-changing defensive fronts and make all the line calls. It was no easy task for a rookie.

Gholston, drafted sixth overall and signed to a five-year, $32 million contract that includes $21 million guaranteed, had yet another underwhelming performance in the Jets' 27-20 victory over the Eagles on Thursday night at Lincoln Financial Field.

And Gholston was going against the Eagles' backups, namely right tackle Winston Justice, who was a human turnstile in the Giants' record-setting 12-sack game against the Eagles last season.

The 6-3, 264-pound Gholston was credited with three tackles in three quarters (roughly 40 plays) against the Eagles' subs. He missed two tackles, couldn't keep containment on several running plays and had no sacks. He did force Justice into a holding penalty.

"It's frustrating," Gholston said. "You have that rookie mind-set. You're running around trying to do everything right but when you think too much, that's when you make mistakes. After the first couple of quarters, I had to tell myself to settle down, play what I'm supposed to play and do what I've always done.

"You look at (no sacks in the preseason), but I don't worry about it too much. The sacks will come. For me, it's just going out there and making sure I know what to do. Once I do that, I'll be able to play full speed."
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New York Jets not worried about Gholston's poor preseason - New York Jets Football - NJ.com
 
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Jets' first-rounders pumped up for debuts
The Associated PressPublished: September 5, 2008

FLORHAM PARK, N.J.: Vernon Gholston expects to get a good night's sleep before his first real NFL game.

Sure, the New York Jets' rookie linebacker is excited and nervous about his debut against the Dolphins, but that doesn't mean he'll be staring at the ceiling in his Miami hotel room Saturday night.

"Nah, I sleep pretty easily," Gholston said Friday. "That's always been my thing."

And so was terrorizing quarterbacks while playing in his share of big games at Ohio State.

"It really doesn't hit me until I get to the stadium and all the warmups are done and really until we walk out there on the field," Gholston said. "Other than that, I'm pretty relaxed, just going over things in my head and trying not to stress out about it. Then, when the time comes, let's go out and make something happen."

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The Jets are certainly hoping Gholston does quite a bit after drafting him with the sixth overall selection in April. He's expected to see lots of action against the Dolphins, as is fellow first-rounder Dustin Keller.

"They've all done positive things and nothing's been handed to them," coach Eric Mangini said. "I don't really believe in that in terms of, OK, we drafted him in this spot, he's got to do this. It's not really that approach. It's much more of a meritocracy. But, if they're on the 45-man roster, I said this to the team, each one of the days, if you're up, you've got to contribute."

Gholston has admittedly been slow to grasp the Jets' 3-4 defensive system as he switches from defensive end to outside linebacker. He had a mostly quiet preseason with 11 tackles and no sacks in four games, but is optimistic.

"I'm feeling pretty good," he said. "We had our last practice before the game and worked out a lot of different things that were going on. The biggest thing for me over the next two days is to just get a mental picture of everything, know where I'm supposed to be at, know what's going on and study Miami a little more."

After setting a school record last season with 14 sacks, Gholston knows it won't be as easy to get to the quarterback in the NFL. He also has to fight the thoughts of trying to do too much.

"I think that's the biggest thing for me," he said. "You see the ball and you want to get to the football, but that's always easier said than done. I have to do what I'm supposed to do out there and that's be in the right spot and whatever's going on with the play, play my role and I should be fine."
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http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/05/sports/FBN-Jets-Ready-Rookies.php
 
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Mangini confirmed that rookie LB Vernon Gholston was the 12th man on the field in the fourth quarter, resulting in a penalty. Trying not to single out Gholston, Mangini said two other rookies - TE Dustin Keller and CB Dwight Lowery - also made mental errors in the game.
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Rookie LB Vernon Gholston was penalized for being the 12th man on the field during a fourth-quarter field-goal drive by the Patriots that sealed the victory with 5:18 remaining. Gholston also was credited with no tackles.
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Rookie LB Vernon Gholston has been a nonfactor in the first two games, but Mangini isn't overly concerned about the No. 6 pick in the draft. The Jets were penalized in the fourth quarter last week when the 6-3, 264-pound Gholston, who is making the transition from defensive lineman, was the 12th man on the field.
"Guys develop differently," Mangini said. "There's no one set timeline that I've ever seen for a rookie. All he has to do is keep chipping away at it and keep making progress each week.
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