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bucknut502
Hall of Fame
That’s fair. And maybe Urban did ask around. It sounds like very few people knew about the incident. I’m not defending Meyer. But it’s possible that nobody is wrong. Like Tyvis said, it was something handled.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Then he should have but didn't say, "I had no part in presenting a pic of Martin and no knowledge whether this was ever done." Instead, he makes the unequivocal statement that it did not happen. I guess he felt like the whole episode was a text message that could be scrubbed before handing his cell phone over to the university.
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The week before signing day would have been a great day for a "be wise, kids" post. Instead he did it during a game he wasn't participating in.
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mendensa
Legend
He probably thought he was going to be a bigger part of the Rose Bowl game plan at that point. Once he realized otherwise, he decided to not go, and the unfair way he's been treated now was an issue. He had plenty of time to prove himself to the defensive staff, incompetent or not. It just didn't happen. Good luck Marcus.
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billmac91
Head Coach
Maybe it’s me but I thought Marcus played decently most of year…..he’s not blessed with elite physical tools but he seemed to tackle well and play hard.
I’m disappointed it came to this type of ending. I always respected his wrestling background and kids who put that type of effort into a sport like wrestling are not soft. So this situation confounds me a bit.
Best of luck to him….wouldn’t be surprised to see him as a contributor to some of these up and coming social commentary/sports type personalities. The Jemele Hill’s of the world will latch onto this and give it as much run as possible. And Marcus is very articulate and can certainly parlay this into a profession if he wants too…..just my opinion. Basically another Acho brother if he wants that path.
I’m disappointed it came to this type of ending. I always respected his wrestling background and kids who put that type of effort into a sport like wrestling are not soft. So this situation confounds me a bit.
Best of luck to him….wouldn’t be surprised to see him as a contributor to some of these up and coming social commentary/sports type personalities. The Jemele Hill’s of the world will latch onto this and give it as much run as possible. And Marcus is very articulate and can certainly parlay this into a profession if he wants too…..just my opinion. Basically another Acho brother if he wants that path.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Thinking more about his comments about being forced into easy majors and not allowed to focus on school, I don't deny it's happening. My question is how many of these kids (and their parents) are all for it when they arrive because they are 100 percent certain that they'll be in the NFL in a couple of years. Only after the NFL dream is dead do they start complaining about not being given a chance to take advantage of the education.
Let's face it; given where Ohio State is right now, almost every kid is going to come in here focused exclusively on preparing for the NFL. Look at Justin Fields. He clearly had the tools coming out of high school to major in and succeed at any major he wanted to, but he took the path of least resistance to focus on football and prepare for the NFL. For him, it was the right choice. For others, it probably won't be. It used to be that the program always had multiple true scholar-athletes at any one time. These days, I see the Harry Millers of the world as being real outliers in any program that wants to compete at an elite level. So, MW got shuffled off to a sports management major. Did he fight it? Or did he willingly agree to it because it was the best way to focus on football and get to the NFL.
Let's face it; given where Ohio State is right now, almost every kid is going to come in here focused exclusively on preparing for the NFL. Look at Justin Fields. He clearly had the tools coming out of high school to major in and succeed at any major he wanted to, but he took the path of least resistance to focus on football and prepare for the NFL. For him, it was the right choice. For others, it probably won't be. It used to be that the program always had multiple true scholar-athletes at any one time. These days, I see the Harry Millers of the world as being real outliers in any program that wants to compete at an elite level. So, MW got shuffled off to a sports management major. Did he fight it? Or did he willingly agree to it because it was the best way to focus on football and get to the NFL.
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The problem is, I'd bet every, or almost every kid that gets a scholarship to play at a major program thinks their future is the NFL. And it's a crapshoot, really. How many low 3* kids turn into A.J. Hawk or Chris Olave? How many 5* kids go bust? It's a lot for both. The kids joining the Ohio States, Alabamas, Clempsons of the world have probably been the best football players in their town since they were 9 years old and have had everyone in their lives telling them they have an NFL future. A CFB roster has 85 of those guys on it. I'd imagine the frustration/disappointment is common in 90% of the kids on those rosters when their football career ends without achieving their NFL dream. A vast majority of those kids mature enough to see that it was a longshot to begin with. A very small fraction don't come to that realization and lash out at everyone that they perceive having stifled those dreams instead of lookng at themselves. Are there situations where a coach at a school may purposely hold a kid back for whatever reason? I'm sure there are. But, coaches are paid to win football games. Their jobs depend on it. So, I would imagine they are putting the players that give them the greatest chance to succeed on the field unless there are mitigating circumstances preventing that.
Social media has given these kids a public pulpit to air their dirty laundry. Some choose wisely, some go on there and bitch and moan. It is what it is. Ohio State is an extremely successful program and that breeds a lot of hate towards it. People and media outlets without context revel in these situations. The fact that it seems to be just 2 disgruntled players who did not produce much in their time here taking this stance, and no former teammates are backing them up leads me to believe there probably isn't a lot of merit to their claims. In fact, a number of former players made the effort to actively refute them.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Maybe the solution is to guarantee tuition until the age of 25. Hit campus, major in sports management or communications and focus on getting to the NFL. Things don't go as planned then you have some leeway to transfer over into a real major. Certainly, the Ohio States of the world can afford it.
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Onebuckfan
classof76
My advice to the Williamsons and others is being a member in good standing of Buckeye Nation is valuable. If you don’t go the NFL that standing opens doors that are closed to the average alumni.
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You're close. They should let them play without taking classes. Then when their athletic careers are over, they get the 4 year scholarship. I've been saying this for decades.
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Yep. 100% agree. It's the G.I. Bill for football approach.
Throw in health care for them to recompense for the physical damage and I'd be perfectly comfortable with that for my son.
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Alos, like any other working adult, let them go to school part time during playing days. That will give those who want to put forth the extra effort a head start for after playing career credits. Wile they are playing though, sport is job 1 and school is extra. It isn't that different from the real world if you remove the lens of this overly romanticized scholar athlete fantasy that some people still cling to.
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