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Could the gap be closing?

Mac

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This is just a thought after watching football the past couple years, and seeing all of these mid majors (MAC/WAC/CUSA/MOUNTWEST/SUNBELT and DII) give the more prestigious teams a run for their money, could they be closing the gap between the two? We have seen these lower teams give these big boys games that have made them and the nation gasp. Up until the past few year's it was expected of the major conference teams to destory these teams. Now it is in the backs of teams minds, could we be the next team to fall to a lower team? After seeing App State beat TSUN last year, we compare an upset to wow, could this team be another App State? Is the athletic ability and recruiting gap between these conferences and divisions closing making teams a little more "even"?
 
BuckeyeMac;1252095; said:
This is just a thought after watching football the past couple years, and seeing all of these mid majors (MAC/WAC/CUSA/MOUNTWEST/SUNBELT and DII) give the more prestigious teams a run for their money, could they be closing the gap between the two? We have seen these lower teams give these big boys games that have made them and the nation gasp. Up until the past few year's it was expected of the major conference teams to destory these teams. Now it is in the backs of teams minds, could we be the next team to fall to a lower team? After seeing App State beat TSUN last year, we compare an upset to wow, could this team be another App State? Is the athletic ability and recruiting gap between these conferences and divisions closing making teams a little more "even"?

Will we be the next team to fall? Probably not.

Is the gap closing in general? Hell yes, it has been for a while now.

Scholarship limits, better HS coaching/S&C/camps, and the spread offensive philosophies are my general reasons why.
 
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It's been closing since the 85 scholarship limit in the late '70s. Does that mean FredOU--or even UC for that matter--will ever be a peer of Ohio State? Absolutely not. That being said, however, the talent gap has closed enough that there will be a very sad, sad day when one of the Fredo schools threads the needle and beats Ohio State.

It's just going to happen. A Fredo school will play the game of their lives on a day when Ohio State comes out flat and mistake prone (we were a few interceptions away from that happening yesterday) or a once in a generation Fredo team (think '06 Boise State) will, through lucky scheduling, get a shot at a rebuilding Ohio State team.

BTW, this is all the more reason not to play these clowns two and three times a year. Why double or triple the likelihood of this happening?
 
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I think the combination of the playoff format and the 85-scholarship limit can at least explain how some of the better 1-AA programs have gotten a leg up on at least the bottom third of D1-A. The 1-AA teams that consistently make deep playoff runs are getting a lot more game reps and practice time from playing as many as 15 games, as opposed to only 11 or 12 games for the 1-A teams that do not consistently get to late-Dec, early-Jan bowls. Also, the prestigious 1-AA programs often have a number of quality 1-A prospects & transfers who have landed there for one reason or another.
 
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There are several things going on. First, as mentioned, the 85 scholarship limit is a factor.

Second, the spread allows a team to use smaller, faster players, who demographically speaking, are more common. It is hard to find a guy with the size and speed of Terrelle Pryor, Beanie Wells, or Lawrence Wilson. It's a lot easier to find a guy who is just as fast, but 3-4 inches shorter and 30-40 pounds lighter. When you design schemes to make those guys effective, it keeps you in ballgames a little longer.

Third, the big schools are under a lot of behavioral scrutiny. A player with shaky academics and/or some potential legal or character issues is under a much more focused microscope at Ohio State, Penn State, Florida, etc. Coaches at a smaller school will have more leeway and can take kids that the big schools won't risk anymore.

Fourth, lots of young and upcoming assistants want their shot at the big chair early, and see how an Urban Meyer can go from coaching at a place like BG to coaching in Gainesville in a relatively short period of time. Talented young coaches don't want to serve for decades under a master, like how Gene Stallings was willing to do under Bear Bryant, or how Frank Solich did under Tom Osborne. The coaching talent at the mid majors is getting much better as a result.

Fifth, recruiting has changed a great deal due to the Internet and film. Email, text messaging, video highlights, camps, etc. all allow coaches from the mid majors to find the players they need and to get out and recruit them. It's surprising to see how many players at a supposed "regional" university will come from halfway across the country. MAC rosters are sprinkled with kids from Texas, California, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, and so on. A lot of those kids become impact players.

Sixth, the prevalence of bowl games and expanded regular season schedule is giving more and more mid majors a shot at playing a BCS conference foe. With 12 games, and with conference divisions that allow for more and more OOC matchups, plus the bowl tie ins, the better mid majors get their day in the sun. With the BCS now wide open to an overachieving mid major, there's more opportunities for either an upset or scare.

A lot of mid majors are very fundamentally sound football teams with well-designed and well-executed offensive and defensive schemes. Many of them are loaded with fast players as well. What you don't see are the big and fast players -- no 6' 2" corners, no 225 lb safeties, no 260 lb MLBs who can drop into pass coverage and so on. You'll see high skill level, but not in the same size player. You also won't see the depth, which is why a lot of Cinderella bids come apart in the second half. Many mid majors can play with you for 30 minutes. It's in the next 30 minutes where rotation comes into play that they begin to have problems. How often do you see the halftime scores of the early games and wonder what's going on around the country, only to see the BCS schools lay down the hammer in the second half?

Anyway, that's my take. It's good for football because it makes things fun.
 
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I think that the gap is definitely closing, I'll beat the 85 schollie limit to death, but I'll add the fact that the Big Boy schools are not taking as many kids who are projects (not filled out yet, etc.) leaving some very good potential kids to grow up and be quite good at smaller schools. Also I agree that the spread levels the playing field, when you have a great athlete who is a little under sized and doesn't have the best passing skills but he catches magic in a bottle and passes lights out for a week, makes them tough to beat (Juice Williams :smash: )

It is also very difficult to get up for what is considered a lesser team, meaning the favored are lethargic and the underdogs are playing their Super Bowl.
 
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There are certainly some great non BCS programs out there. The scholarship limit has played a role, but I think more importantly I think coaching has played a significant role as well. Gary Patterson at TCU and Bronco Mendenhal at BYU to name a couple who have helped build their programs into very competitive ones. Marquee win against top BCS teams such as Boise State and Utah's wins in BCS games as well as TCU's wins at Oklahoma in 05 and against Texas Tech in 06 have helped them to recruit some of the top talent in their region. Non BCS schools have also produced great NFL talent over the past decade such as Ladainian Tomlinson (TCU), Ben Roethlisberger (MiamiOH), and Randy Moss (Marshall) to name a few. Having future series scheduled against teams such as LSU, Florida State, Oklahoma, Arizona State, and Oregon will give them more opportunities to show what their programs can do against top tier competition.
 
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Unless you're talking about this......then, "no".


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