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Could Someone Go Julius Caesar / Augustus on the USA Today?

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Muck said:
From several hundred miles off shore.

TLAM > Tater's shotgun
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not a good strategic move by the empire to bomb and possibly shut down the mouth and port.

so they have to actually come inland and bring the fight here.

tater's shotgun and airboat on his home turf just got a lot tougher to beat. Louisiana's coast ain't the beaches of Normandy where you can launch a full scale invasion.
it's shallow and marshy for miles before you get to anything resembling enough land to effectively move in large numbers of troops.

the importance of the river and oil ports, both on land and just off coast, is that they are already completely built and operational.

rebuilding them in place or replacing them elsewhere will be extremely expensive and time consuming.

And even if you can quickly get crude oil into and offloaded in some other city, most of the refineries are still down here.

anyone exporting any goods from the majority of this country use the Mississippi because it is much more cost effective than the alternatives.

that now makes New Orleans and Houston extremely important pieces of the puzzle.


Louisiana, Texas and depending on where specifically the eastern and norther borders fall have enough resources to self sustain for a while.

industries strong enough to support themselves here:
oil
gas
salt
sugar
Mexicans
beef
Hot Sauce
poultry
forestry
fisheries
corn
rice
soybean
cotton
fur
illegal narcotics
 
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Nutriaitch said:
not a good strategic move by the empire to bomb and possibly shut down the mouth and port.

so they have to actually come inland and bring the fight here.
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Welcome to big boy geopolitics.

Remember you started by discussing how material assets of the ROT would give it control over neighboring nations. When you start using trade as political weapon your adversaries are going to reply in kind. It's hard to use trade as a weapon when competing powers can easily embargo your ports. You then discussed escalating it to an armed conflict & I pointed out that those competing powers would have little trouble prosecuting strikes without it turning into a scene from Southern Comfort.
 
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Muck said:
Welcome to big boy geopolitics.

Remember you started by discussing how material assets of the ROT would give it control over neighboring nations. When you start using trade as political weapon your adversaries are going to reply in kind. It's hard to use trade as a weapon when competing powers can easily embargo your ports. You then discussed escalating it to an armed conflict & I pointed out that those competing powers would have little trouble prosecuting strikes without it turning into a scene from Southern Comfort.
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I probably did a poor job of communicating my thought process.
I'll try to clear it up a little.


What I meant was the infrastructure of Texas and Louisiana already in place (production/transportation of oil & gas, the ports along the mississippi, oil refineries, etc.) are things that are going to be needed by the other "countries" that will also form.
Assets like that are rarely free for other countries to just use at will, so some sort of agreement would have to be struck for everyone to carry on peacefully.

Can those agreements be struck with each and every new territory that would form? possibly, but history says probably not.
History also says that at least one new territory will probably attempt to just "take it".

my hypothetical was what happens when there isn't that peaceful agreement?
 
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Nutriaitch said:
Can any of you from Ohio educate me on how valuable the Port of Cincinnati is to that area's economy?
Same question for the Port of Pittsburgh?

Those two ports are both in the top 50 in the US, and both are part of the Mississippi River system and would (in some way) be impacted by a different country controlling the big river.
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You know the pod race scene from Star Wars Episode I where the sand people camp on the ridge just to take pot-shots at passing racers for fun?

That'll be West Virginians.
 
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