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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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Here is the reality of COVID-19. It attacks many organs in the body and leaves long-term damage. Lung tissue does not recover to it's former state. Much is replaced by scar tissue that does not process oxygen and lacks the same flexibility. As an H1N1 survivor, I can confirm that my lung capacity was 975ml before and 480ml after. It has not changed in a decade of exercise. COVID-19 additionally attacks other organs: the heart, the brain, the pancreas, the liver. Much of this damage is long-term damage that will affect the quality of life and longevity.

Please, let's treat each other with civility and avoid conflict over this. And, please, even if you think COVID-19 is nothing more than another flu, pretend that what I just said is a fact and act accordingly.
 
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BuckBuckTN said:
It's obvious you don't give a FUCK nor know a DAMN THING about science. The JAMA article, which I'm assuming you didn't even read the abstract of, was clear about the study and the participants.

You dumbass, that's what medical studies are all about, studying a percentage of a population and attempting to apply the results to a larger population. Certainly, it's not perfect, but extrapolation has proven rather useful over several hundred years of medical study. Further, this was a study of athletes, not just any athletes, OUR athletes who were damaged by this virus.

You don't care? Really? You don't care that 15% of young, healthy athletes studied are suffering a..... in layman's terms as you're obviously a cretin...... damn lousy long-term problem from this virus? My most polite comment is: Fuck you in the left nostril with a blue whale dick.

Your "then, be afraid" is just the showing of your own fear to educate yourself. I don't offer you BS. I offer you a fucking peer reviewed JAMA article to which you say, "I don't care. You're just afraid."

I'm not. I'm informed. You're ignorant.
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That link is a terrible choice to make your "point." Myocarditis is one of the most common, yet undetected, conditions among high performing athletes, and I speak from experience. Athletic cardiac adaptation is the Occam's razor here, which of course, is even stated in the article. And that's all it is, a research letter, not a study, as you need baselines and control groups for any meaningful conclusions. They aren't even in control of the timing of the Covid infection. Not good.
 
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Steve19 said:
Here is the reality of COVID-19. It attacks many organs in the body and leaves long-term damage. Lung tissue does not recover to it's former state. Much is replaced by scar tissue that does not process oxygen and lacks the same flexibility. As an H1N1 survivor, I can confirm that my lung capacity was 975ml before and 480ml after. It has not changed in a decade of exercise. COVID-19 additionally attacks other organs: the heart, the brain, the pancreas, the liver. Much of this damage is long-term damage that will affect the quality of life and longevity.

Please, let's treat each other with civility and avoid conflict over this. And, please, even if you think COVID-19 is nothing more than another flu, pretend that what I just said is a fact and act accordingly.
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The flu caused long term damage to your lungs, but covid is nothing like the flu? That doesn't even make sense. No one should be excited about having either, as they both suck!
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
How many Died?
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4,055 was the last daily number I just saw. I don’t know what percentage of cases that was, and I don’t care.

Over 4000 Americans dying of something in a single day seems like a helluva significant problem to me. I fail to understand why somebody still wants to portray this pandemic as something less it is, other than cognitive dissonance.
 
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BB73 said:
4,055 was the last daily number I just saw. I don’t know what percentage of cases that was, and I don’t care.

Over 4000 Americans dying of something in a single day seems like a helluva significant problem to me. I fail to understand why somebody still wants to portray this pandemic as something less it is, other than cognitive dissonance.
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Bro, You obviously fail to recognize the power of “doing your own research”
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
OK, now you're about to find out what has been missing from my posts the last few months. I seriously don't give fuck about what you think, or what you post. Got it? How many of the students at Ohio State were studied post-Covid and had myocarditis. I'd seriously imagine that not all students that tested for Covid were studied. But, hey. whatever...feel free to be all scared and shit.
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I conducted a survey of 1 million students at Ohio State who had Covid 19. 3% of them had myocarditis.

Now, if you are interested in a less reputable source with a much smaller sample size, researchers at John Hopkins and LSU) are also finding low rates of myocarditis, and have interesting thoughts about what is causing this:

However, following a recent review of clinical findings from 277 hearts autopsied from people in nine countries who died from COVID-19, researchers at Johns Hopkins Medicine and the Louisiana State University suggest otherwise, saying their evaluation provides evidence that myocarditis related to the viral disease may actually be a rare occurrence.

The study was published online Oct. 29, 2020, in the journal Cardiovascular Pathology.

The data from the autopsied hearts were published in 22 papers. After careful review, the researchers determined that the rate of myocarditis found in these patients is between 1.4% and 7.2%. Earlier studies, using imaging of hearts rather than a physical examination of the organs following death, reported rates ranging between 14% and 60%.
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MililaniBuckeye said:
My oldest daughter now has it...about a week after getting a two-stage shot.
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heisman said:
The flu caused long term damage to your lungs, but covid is nothing like the flu? That doesn't even make sense. No one should be excited about having either, as they both suck!
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Look again at my post. I did not say that anyone should be excited or that one is not like the other. My wife is a pathology prof, with a long-time appointment at the Harvard Medical School. I overhear her conversations with her US and European colleagues in the evening. My daughter is a final year medical school student at one of the best medical schools in the world. So, I get the research shared with me on a daily basis, whether I like it or not. I also stayed at a Holiday Inn once.

My first point was that the damage done to my lungs by H1N1 was permanent, as was mentioned in preceding posts. Both the Swine Flu and COVUD-19 cause pulmonary abscesses, which are the primary cause of the long-term effects. My second point was that COVID-19 is not just a respiratory disease and there is considerable research underway into its longer-term effects on the nervous system, brain, heart, liver, pancreas, and other organs.

The most popular claim is that COVID-19 is no more serious than the flu. How many videos must we see from people on their death beds warning us that COVID-19 is not the flu and wishing they had listened when experts said it was so much more severe? My third point is that, even if you believe that, act as if COVID-19 is everything others claim it to be. That is, to protect yourself, even if you think it is unnecessary.

For twenty years, I looked forward to this year as the crowning achievement of my career, visiting universities around the world and working with major corporates. Everything I planned was cancelled. Years of preparation undone. So much lost.

When it comes to suckitude, dude, one of these is not like the other.

My final point is that it no longer makes sense to argue with COVID-19 denialists. There is no need to belittle others, demean them, or attack them. We all know the facts but in the poisoned, cynical world in which we live, it is up to each of us to determine what we wish to believe and do in response to this pandemic.
 
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Steve19 said:
Look again at my post. I did not say that anyone should be excited or that one is not like the other. My wife is a pathology prof, with a long-time appointment at the Harvard Medical School. I overhear her conversations with her US and European colleagues in the evening. My daughter is a final year medical school student at one of the best medical schools in the world. So, I get the research shared with me on a daily basis, whether I like it or not. I also stayed at a Holiday Inn once.

My first point was that the damage done to my lungs by H1N1 was permanent, as was mentioned in preceding posts. Both the Swine Flu and COVUD-19 cause pulmonary abscesses, which are the primary cause of the long-term effects. My second point was that COVID-19 is not just a respiratory disease and there is considerable research underway into its longer-term effects on the nervous system, brain, heart, liver, pancreas, and other organs.

The most popular claim is that COVID-19 is no more serious than the flu. How many videos must we see from people on their death beds warning us that COVID-19 is not the flu and wishing they had listened when experts said it was so much more severe? My third point is that, even if you believe that, act as if COVID-19 is everything others claim it to be. That is, to protect yourself, even if you think it is unnecessary.

For twenty years, I looked forward to this year as the crowning achievement of my career, visiting universities around the world and working with major corporates. Everything I planned was cancelled. Years of preparation undone. So much lost.

When it comes to suckitude, dude, one of these is not like the other.

My final point is that it no longer makes sense to argue with COVID-19 denialists. There is no need to belittle others, demean them, or attack them. We all know the facts but in the poisoned, cynical world in which we live, it is up to each of us to determine what we wish to believe and do in response to this pandemic.
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Thanks for the well thought out post. Any insight you can offer on the Covid-19 mutation in South Africa?
 
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Steve19 said:
Look again at my post. I did not say that anyone should be excited or that one is not like the other. My wife is a pathology prof, with a long-time appointment at the Harvard Medical School. I overhear her conversations with her US and European colleagues in the evening. My daughter is a final year medical school student at one of the best medical schools in the world. So, I get the research shared with me on a daily basis, whether I like it or not. I also stayed at a Holiday Inn once.

My first point was that the damage done to my lungs by H1N1 was permanent, as was mentioned in preceding posts. Both the Swine Flu and COVUD-19 cause pulmonary abscesses, which are the primary cause of the long-term effects. My second point was that COVID-19 is not just a respiratory disease and there is considerable research underway into its longer-term effects on the nervous system, brain, heart, liver, pancreas, and other organs.

The most popular claim is that COVID-19 is no more serious than the flu. How many videos must we see from people on their death beds warning us that COVID-19 is not the flu and wishing they had listened when experts said it was so much more severe? My third point is that, even if you believe that, act as if COVID-19 is everything others claim it to be. That is, to protect yourself, even if you think it is unnecessary.

For twenty years, I looked forward to this year as the crowning achievement of my career, visiting universities around the world and working with major corporates. Everything I planned was cancelled. Years of preparation undone. So much lost.

When it comes to suckitude, dude, one of these is not like the other.

My final point is that it no longer makes sense to argue with COVID-19 denialists. There is no need to belittle others, demean them, or attack them. We all know the facts but in the poisoned, cynical world in which we live, it is up to each of us to determine what we wish to believe and do in response to this pandemic.
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I own a factory in Bangkok, and the cultural differences in the varying attitudes towards COVID are absolutely astounding. Unlike here, no fear whatsoever over there, but also were wearing masks when they didn’t feel well long before COVID existed. A very simple culture, but very united.
 
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