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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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Well that's depressing :sad2:

Indeed.

I think it's fair to put this lockdown into the proper context.

The government(s) is asking/telling millions of Americans to forgo their ability to obtain the basic resources need to survive in our society. No one on earth is going to voluntarily take that level of damage to their own lives/lives of their families for someone else no matter how well intentioned they may be.

This huge swath of Americans can't go much more than 2 weeks without risk to their ability to access/provide food, shelter, clothing or child care.

Everyone being into to flattening the curve is very nice and all but I don't see any headlines discussing the cost of that.
 
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Indeed.

I think it's fair to put this lockdown into the proper context.

The government(s) is asking/telling millions of Americans to forgo their ability to obtain the basic resources need to survive in our society. No one on earth is going to voluntarily take that level of damage to their own lives/lives of their families for someone else no matter how well intentioned they may be.

This huge swath of Americans can't go much more than 2 weeks without risk to their ability to access/provide food, shelter, clothing or child care.

Everyone being into to flattening the curve is very nice and all but I don't see any headlines discussing the cost of that.

The financial impact of this crisis will be felt for years - go look at your retirement accounts.

Not only are all of these people being shut out of work not bringing in money they're also not creating tax revenue. People/entities that rely on government/government contracts will feel it. My organization treats Medicaid clients. Funding was slashed 25% after 9/11 and it took years just to get back to that original level. We had to layoff several people as a result. I really don't want to go down that road again.
 
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Is there a right answer here? I'm not all about martial law, but the alternative is the government determining that it's too expensive and costly to the economy to do the things necessary to try to save these lives. It's almost like a real life trolley problem -- do you DO everything you can to save these at risk people knowing that you may be / will be putting another different group at risk?

I don't envy the decision makers one bit here. What can they do?
 
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As much as I hate govt intervening, DeWine gets an A+ thus far in my opinion.
Not sure if you're being facetious or not, but I saw his interview with CNN, as well as NYC Mayor de Blasio's interview which immediately followed.

DeWine held it together and did a good job, raising awareness but giving the impression that he's taking care of the people in his State and not waiting for the Feds to get their sh*t together and help.

Having said that, what really struck me from both interviews, as they were talking about contingency plans to cover the closure of public schools was... how to get lunches to the kids since they can't come to school.

Blew my mind... that in this day and age, in this country, the biggest and most critical benefit which a public education provides are red baron pizzas and tater tots.

Wow.

@Thump : You are/were an educator, no? What's your take on this - aside from "pffft... that's just the tip of the iceberg".
 
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Blew my mind... that in this day and age, in this country, the biggest and most critical benefit which a public education provides are red baron pizzas and tater tots.

Wow.
it's the only food eaten by far too many. Huge kudos to replacing that lifeline, especially places like Columbus city for doing anyone 18 and under.
 
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So my moms church in Ohio decided to shutdown for today. Here is the FB post from the Pastor:

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Now the thing that gets me here is the acknowledgment of the age of the membership, along with the audacity of stating we will close for this week only. Note that the Pope has already closed all Easter services to the masses. Yes, I get that Italy is in a much different place currently than the U.S. and note I said currently. This sort of holier than thou attitude is just ridiculous and shows a total lack of comprehension for the circumstances.
 
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Is there a right answer here? I'm not all about martial law, but the alternative is the government determining that it's too expensive and costly to the economy to do the things necessary to try to save these lives. It's almost like a real life trolley problem -- do you DO everything you can to save these at risk people knowing that you may be / will be putting another different group at risk?

I don't envy the decision makers one bit here. What can they do?

Make a decision I guess. Not everyone is going to like it.

Do you starve a 30 year old mother of 3 so an already sick 85 year old can live a little longer?

Things like that are speeding toward us I fear.
 
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Not sure if you're being facetious or not, but I saw his interview with CNN, as well as NYC Mayor de Blasio's interview which immediately followed.

DeWine held it together and did a good job, raising awareness but giving the impression that he's taking care of the people in his State and not waiting for the Feds to get their sh*t together and help.

Having said that, what really struck me from both interviews, as they were talking about contingency plans to cover the closure of public schools was... how to get lunches to the kids since they can't come to school.

Blew my mind... that in this day and age, in this country, the biggest and most critical benefit which a public education provides are red baron pizzas and tater tots.

Wow.

@Thump : You are/were an educator, no? What's your take on this - aside from "pffft... that's just the tip of the iceberg".
C’mon now, that’s a bit harsh... School lunches are one part of the schools that actually helps keep kids alive. So take care of that first, then they will figure out how to push out “classroom” materials to the kids soon enough. Our district sent home a ton of stuff with the kids on Friday, and I expect a million emails going forward.
 
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it's the only food eaten by far too many. Huge kudos to replacing that lifeline, especially places like Columbus city for doing anyone 18 and under.

First thing I reached out about to other members of the local business community. A LOT of kids depend on public school to eat.

This is no small consequence.
 
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Is there a right answer here? I'm not all about martial law, but the alternative is the government determining that it's too expensive and costly to the economy to do the things necessary to try to save these lives. It's almost like a real life trolley problem -- do you DO everything you can to save these at risk people knowing that you may be / will be putting another different group at risk?

I don't envy the decision makers one bit here. What can they do?
Try not to consider the possibility where the trolley switch splits it in half.
 
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Not sure if you're being facetious or not, but I saw his interview with CNN, as well as NYC Mayor de Blasio's interview which immediately followed.

DeWine held it together and did a good job, raising awareness but giving the impression that he's taking care of the people in his State and not waiting for the Feds to get their sh*t together and help.

Having said that, what really struck me from both interviews, as they were talking about contingency plans to cover the closure of public schools was... how to get lunches to the kids since they can't come to school.

Blew my mind... that in this day and age, in this country, the biggest and most critical benefit which a public education provides are red baron pizzas and tater tots.

Wow.

@Thump : You are/were an educator, no? What's your take on this - aside from "pffft... that's just the tip of the iceberg".
Kudos to those governors.
 
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First thing I reached out about to other members of the local business community. A LOT of kids depend on public school to eat.

This is no small consequence.
It's also something that can be wrongly thought about as a city school problem, when it touches almost all districts. Which gets back to the trolley heading for both groups problem :sad:
 
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